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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You don't want that, Ryan. There's a 18.75 x
9.35 that's way better.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=smaragdz@bellsouth.net href="mailto:smaragdz@bellsouth.net">Ryan
Smith</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:51
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] APC 18.1
x 10W props</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is the 18.5x9.5
available yet?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-Ryan<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Dr. Mike
Harrison<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday,
November 15, 2006 5:26 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] APC 18.1
x 10W props</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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Yeah.......</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=gfowler@raytheon.com href="mailto:gfowler@raytheon.com">Gray E
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title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:49 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] APC 18.1 x 10W props<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Good God almighty! Mike
Harrison on the list! Can Art Wagner be far behind?</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR><BR><BR>Gray
Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radome and Composites
Engineering<BR>Raytheon</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
wrote on 11/15/2006 02:41:42 PM:</SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> Thanks George!</FONT></TT></SPAN></FONT>
<BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>
----- Original Message ----- </SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> From: george w.
kennie </SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing
List</st1:PersonName> </SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006
12:03 PM</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] APC 18.1 x 10W
props</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> Welcome to the list
Mike!!!!!</FONT></TT></SPAN></FONT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ----- Original Message -----
</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> From: Dr. Mike Harrison
</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing
List</st1:PersonName> </SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006
8:31 AM</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] APC 18.1 x 10W
props</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> Peter,</FONT></TT></SPAN></FONT> <BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>
Hi,</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> I am Mike Harrison, I worked with APC to
develop these props. Let </SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> me tell you the goal of the prop design. It is
to fly at a moderate</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> to
slow constant speed under the noise limit but with good pulling
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> performance.
Therefore, regarding the rpm, the 8000 is about ideal
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> for that prop, turn it
much more and you will be above the noise limit.
</FONT></TT></SPAN></FONT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></TT>
<BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> I
find it interesting that you determine whether a prop is adequate
</SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> by first tacking it. I would think you would
fly it first to see if</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> it
was adequate. I would encourage you to do that first. The OS
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> 140 turns it about the
same and it flies very well. </FONT></TT></SPAN></FONT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>
</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> The whole purpose was to develop a prop that
would fly at a </SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> deliberate pace at about 150 meters to compete with
the electrics. </FONT></TT></SPAN></FONT> <BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>
</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> There is also an 18.5x9.5 which I fly and it
turns about 7500 rpm. </SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> I like it better than the 18.1x10. I am
working on a 19x9 at the moment.</FONT></TT></SPAN></FONT> <BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>
</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Good luck</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>
Mike</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> From: Peter Pennisi
</SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> To: '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing
List</st1:PersonName>' </SPAN></FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006
5:48 PM</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] APC 18.1 x 10W
props</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> </FONT></TT></SPAN></FONT> <BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> I recently
purchased some 18.1 x 10W APC props for my DZ160. </SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> Apparently there appears to be another version 18.1
x 10.1.</FONT></TT></SPAN></FONT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></TT>
<BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>
Could someone please tell me the difference between both?</SPAN></FONT></TT>
<BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>
</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> I tried a quick ground run on this prop (stock)
this morning but </SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> could barely get 8000 RPM from the engine. I will
take advice from a</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> member
on this list and lop 1/4inch of each blade. What RPM
readings</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> are people getting
who are using either of these props on a YS DZ160
engine?</FONT></TT></SPAN></FONT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></TT>
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</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
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</SPAN></FONT></TT> <BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
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