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<DIV><SPAN class=460460200-25102006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Pete,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=460460200-25102006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=460460200-25102006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>at
risk of getting crucified by those who are much more knowledgeable than myself (
Nat?)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<LI><SPAN class=460460200-25102006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>wing section and %</FONT></SPAN></LI>
<LI><SPAN class=460460200-25102006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>LE
radius ( not as sharp)</FONT></SPAN></LI>
<LI><SPAN class=460460200-25102006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>Taper reduction ( 25% chord line)</FONT></SPAN></LI>
<LI><SPAN class=460460200-25102006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>reduce wing area</FONT></SPAN></LI>
<LI><SPAN class=460460200-25102006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
color=#0000ff>etc etc etc</FONT></SPAN></LI></UL>
<DIV><SPAN class=460460200-25102006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>If
you were to try another wing then everything else will change too-how much work
do you want to do?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=460460200-25102006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>I
assume you have a different program for the windy
conditions?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=460460200-25102006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>Tom
( flame suit on!)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Peter
Pennisi<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 25 October 2006 8:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'NSRCA Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] Another trimming
question<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Guys,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am looking for
opinions.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am currently
flying the COMP-ARF IMPACT with DZ160 which I am very pleased
with.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Model is flying
with no trim and negligible mix. There is no rudder to elevator mix for
knife edge flight and 5% mix at large rudder throws for rollers
etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Model climbs as
straight as an arrow so I am happy with my thrust settings and the model
pulls ever so slightly to canopy on long down lines which is mixed with
throttle.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The incidence
settings are 0 degrees on tail-plane and approximately 1/6<SUP>th</SUP> of a
degree positive on the wing. The CG is about right and I don’t want to go
any further forward as it creates too much work when rolling in 45 degree up
lines.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I know most of you
will say that the model is fairly well trimmed. The model is pure pleasure
to fly in the calm and really locks on well however when the wind comes up
it is a different animal to fly. The model gets knocked around and I find it
very difficult to lock in a line. I am only talking about moderate wind
here. My other model (<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Alliance</st1:place></st1:City>) seems to handle the windy
conditions better. I don’t want to go any heavier in the nose
otherwise rolls become too much work. I would actually like to bring my CG
further back but it will make the model even more difficult to fly in the
wind. CG is currently 5 mm behind rear of wing tube. Model weight is 4.72
KG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Question: Will
changing wing incidence have any effect on model behavior in windy weather
without affecting the rest of my settings / trimming. I only have
1/6<SUP>th</SUP> of degree positive and I know a lot of people run anywhere
between 0.25 to 0.5 degree on their models.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Peter<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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