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<DIV><FONT size=2>A brushless motor is lighter for the same power output
compared to a brushed. Since you think it acts too heavy, that could help
considerably. If you are using Nicd/NiMh, moving to LiPo can give
increased durration AND reduce weight. In combination, LiPo and brushless
replacing a brushed system using NiCd will make a VERY large
difference.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>A local club member has one... It hasn't been flown much, but
appears to not have the issues you describe. (from observing, not me flying
it) He is using brushless and LiPos.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=shan@telus.net href="mailto:shan@telus.net">Amar Shan</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:34
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] Anyone use a
Brio 10 (little electric) topractice pattern?</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
bought one of these to enable flying closer to home, and I expected that it
would fly somewhat </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>akin
to a 2m pattern plane. It does not!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>-
the wing loading seems very high. The glide characteristics are more
akin to a winged brick </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> than a pattern plane ... it really seems to need to land with
power (or at least very nose down</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> until the flare)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>-
Flying it with a Speed 480 - this seems quite inadequate to the task.
Uplines are only</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> 100-150 feet before it runs out of steam, and you simply cannot
pull into a vertical slowly</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> and expect the motor to "tractor" you upwards. It also
seems slow, but I'm new to these</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> little electrics, so perhaps that's
normal?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>- no
braking on the downline at all. Pushing the nose downwards causes it to
accelerate</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> at approximately 9.8 m/s/s (32 feet per sec squared for
our American friends) ... :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Any
suggestions? Has anyone found a way to lighten it? I'm using a
2150 mAH pack, micro</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>servos, miniature rx ... can't think of any obvious way to decrease
weight. I don't have a spinner</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>on
the plane, will that reduce performance? Would an AXI 2808 give better
performance?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>And
lastly, if I'm expecting too much of this airplane, does anyone have any good
recommendations</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>for
a mini (ie, school yard flyer) size pattern plane?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=399512516-18102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Amar</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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