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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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missed it, but….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I thought it was to be assumed that “Flight
Path” is ALWAYS the judging criteria (OK, except while the aircraft is
auto-rotating in a spin….)….NOT model attitude. (Gee, can you
imagine how ugly the M would look in 20kt winds if NOT wind-corrected?)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bob Richards<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, October 17, 2006
4:39 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Masters 2007 Figure "M" question</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I have a real problem with the rules for downgrades listed. It does not
allow for wind correction.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>"Model not vertical at start and finish of rolls and stall
turns."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Should that not be "path not vertical" instead??? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Bob R.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Glen Watson
<gwatson11@houston.rr.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Below is the Figure M description from page 79-80 of the current AMA
rule<br>
book...Note the statement regarding rolls and stall turn direction are<br>
pilot's option...I then found this statement "Edit page 79-80 Figure M
with<br>
¼ or ½ rolls" to include ¾ roll options" on the NSRCA page under:<br>
http://nsrca.org/competition/judging/Patterns2007<br>
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Figure M with 1/4 or 1/2 Rolls: Model pulls up into one-quarter (1/4) loop<br>
to a vertical track, hesitates then performs prescribed roll, hesitates then<br>
executes a stall turn through 180 degrees, hesitates, performs<br>
prescribed roll, hesitates then executes one-half (1/2) outside loop to<br>
vertical track, hesitates, performs prescribed roll, hesitates, executes a<br>
stall turn through 180 degrees, hesitates, performs prescribed roll,<br>
hesitates then recovers with another one-quarter (1/4) loop to level flight.<br>
Direction of rolls and stall turns are pilot's option. The length of the<br>
vertical segments is not a judging criteria. <br>
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Downgrades:<br>
1. Model not vertical at start and finish of rolls<br>
and stall turns.<br>
2. Stall turns not exactly 180 degrees.<br>
3. Model does not execute prescribed rolls.<br>
4. Rolls not centered in vertical lines.<br>
5. Bottom of outside half loop not at same altitude<br>
as entry and exit.<br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
Glen<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<br>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Budd<br>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:20 AM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question<br>
<br>
Hi Jim,<br>
<br>
Unless the maneuver has changed from 15 years ago all the rolls have <br>
to be in the same direction, resulting in one stall turn being <br>
canopy-facing you and the other being belly-facing you (your choice <br>
as to which comes first). It's a tough maneuver, especially when the <br>
wind is blowing other than down the runway.<br>
<br>
Jerry<br>
<br>
<br>
>Bob<br>
> My memory crutch is,when flying from left to right, the 1st 2 roll<br>
>directions are left-left and 2nd 2 roll directions are right-right.<br>
>When flying from the right to left,the 1st 2 roll directions are<br>
right-right<br>
>and 2nd 2 roll directions are left-left.<br>
>Like Arch said the center half loop is inverted in both cases.<br>
>Lotsa a upside down.<br>
><br>
>Jim Ivey<br>
><br>
>----- Original Message -----<br>
>From: "Archie Stafford" <br>
<RCPATTERN@STX.RR.COM>>To: "'<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing
List</st1:PersonName>'" <br>
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG>>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:11 AM<br>
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question<br>
><br>
><br>
>> Bob,<br>
>><br>
>> It has to be inverted. The direction of roll must be the same on every<br>
>3/4<br>
>> roll therefore you end up inverted across the middle.<br>
>><br>
>> Arch<br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<br>
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bob
Kane<br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:53 AM<br>
>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question<br>
>><br>
>> OK, I'm finally try to fly this thing with a pencil . . . . . . one<br>
>> question I have (so far) is the 1/2 loop between the two stall turns
in<br>
>the<br>
>> figure M: Does it matter if it is an inside or outside half loop? The<br>
>> aresti diagram posted on Flying Giants shows it as an outside half
loop<br>
>with<br>
>> no option. Thanks.<br>
>><br>
>> Bob Kane<br>
>> getterflash@yahoo.com<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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