<div>Not to start anything here, but why is it better to present the canopy to the judges? How many points should that count for? If the rules say "pilot's option" then there can be no downgrade if presenting the bottom to the judges. Or maybe this falls under the S&G discussion.</div> <div> </div> <div>IMHO, the M w/ 3/4 is a beautiful manuever when done right, and I think it shows more skill to present the bottom on one of the stall turns. That is how I did it 13 years ago.</div> <div> </div> <div>Bob R.</div> <div><BR><BR><B><I>"george w. kennie" <geobet@gis.net></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>Jim,<BR>It certainly will work this way, but your original method will present <BR>better. With the roll direction being pilots option your original <BR>ll/rr-rr/ll is a much prettier maneuver. There's something to be said for <BR>presenting the canopy to the
judges on rolling maneuvers. I apply this <BR>technique on all maneuvers with rolling elements unless the specified <BR>requirement forces otherwise, like reverse K.E.'s. IMHO, you had it right <BR>the first time!<BR>G.<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: <JIVEY61@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:17 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question<BR><BR><BR>> Bob<BR>> If I read the Aresti correct the rolls on both vertical lines are the same<BR>> direction.This makes it lt-lt and lt-lt coming from the left and rt-rt and<BR>> rt-rt coming from the right.Like Jerry said look at top of plane one time<BR>> and bottom of the plane next time.<BR>><BR>> Jim Ivey<BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Bob Kane" <GETTERFLASH@YAHOO.COM><BR>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Sent: Tuesday,
October 17, 2006 1:01 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question<BR>><BR>><BR>>> Wow, this is more complicated than I anticipated. Do you have to roll the<BR>> same way for each stall turn? Or can you reverse directions to show the<BR>> canopy during each stall?<BR>>><BR>>> For example, flying left to right as shown on the aresti, pull 1/4 loop,<BR>> short line, roll 3/4 left (canopy toward flightline), short line, stall<BR>> toward the right, short line, roll 3/4 left, short line, push 1/2 outside<BR>> loop, short line, roll 3/4 right (canopy faces flight line), short line,<BR>> stall towerd the right, short line, 3/4 roll right, short line, pull 1/4<BR>> loop.<BR>>><BR>>> Bob Kane<BR>>> getterflash@yahoo.com<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ----- Original Message ----<BR>>> From: "jivey61@bellsouth.net" <JIVEY61@BELLSOUTH.NET><BR>>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:45:56 PM<BR>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Jerry<BR>>> I looked again at the aresti and I think you are right.The aresti shows<BR>>> both upline rolls in the same direction.That would let you see the top <BR>>> one<BR>>> time and bottom the other time.<BR>>> My mistake Bob so much for crutches.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>>
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