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<DIV>I weighted the engine and at the moment I remember the bare engine weight
is 1100 gr / 38.2 oz. and the total with switch and batteries is around 1450gr /
50.4 oz.</DIV>
<DIV>I have not tested it yet.</DIV>
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<DIV>Roberto Bracchi - Italy</DIV></DIV>
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<A title=edsko@xmission.com href="mailto:edsko@xmission.com">Ed Skorepa</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 11, 2006 5:20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Impressive pattern plane</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>up lines
were a little lazy compared with the OS 160"</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Vicente, you've got to be kidding! My old version zdz40RE swings 22x8
skorepa prop at 7200 on 10.88 lb Alien. Can you imagine what king of power is
it? The airplane accelerates on up lines like a racket! </DIV>
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<A title=vicenterc@comcast.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 11, 2006 6:36
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Impressive pattern plane</DIV>
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<DIV>I have the chance to fly the Abbra gas version. Also, I flew the
glow version using OS 160. Unfurtunetely, I did a trim fly
only and not a complete Master schedule using the gas version.
The engine was not completely broke in. I do remember that up lines
were a little lazy compared with the OS 160 (I think more work needs to be
done to select the proper prop). The breaking on downlines were really
nice. If the ZDZ 40 F3A is 6-8 oz littler than the old version I will
predict the ZDZ 40 F3A is going to be popular power plant in
pattern. Also will open pattern for the pilots that don't like glow or
electric.</DIV>
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<DIV>Important. The plane was first built with no soft mount. I
really didn't like the vibration levels. As consequence, the one
aileron fluttered really bad. The plane was saved. We replaced
the engine mount with custom built soft mount by Mr. Merle Hyde.
It was incredible experience to see the vibration reduction and the noise
reduction with the hyde mount. Conclusion, if you are planing to
use the ZDZ 40 F3A do NOT hard mount the engine.</DIV>
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<DIV>Vicente "Vince" Bortone</DIV>
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Original message -------------- <BR>From: mike mueller
<mups1953@yahoo.com> <BR> That is really great info Lance. I'm
hoping somebody we know does one so I can see how it runs.
Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Lance Van Nostrand
<patterndude@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm sure a lot of you know about the soon
to be released ZDZ40 F3A, which will be lighter than their 40 rear
exhaust. I am not an expert and know little,but I've fielded
several detailed requests to determine if the large engine will fit
inside the large chin cowl of the AeroSlave Symphony. At
about 5" wide where the engine head goes, it appears to be enough for a
2.2" head, even on a soft mount. With the finished weight of glow
and electric Symphonys hovering near 10#, the extra engine weight minus
the smaller fuel load seems like it could finish out about 10.5#.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Please don't take this information the
wrong way. I'm a modeler, competitor like anyone else and I like
cool things and this would be cool.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--Lance</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=mups1953@yahoo.com href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mike
mueller</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 10, 2006
7:27 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion]
Impressive pattern plane</DIV>
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<DIV> Hey take a look at this plane from eastern Europe..</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1157858/anchors_4849105/mpage_15/key_/anchor/tm.htm#4849105">http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1157858/anchors_4849105/mpage_15/key_/anchor/tm.htm#4849105</A></DIV>
<DIV> It has a gas ZDZ 40 and the final weight is less than
4800 grams. That's pretty impressive in my opinion. The prop is a 20"
Engle which would give it an electric like performance.</DIV>
<DIV> Also the best part of the plane is it doesn't have stickers
all over it.</DIV>
<DIV> Mike</DIV>
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