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<DIV><FONT size=2>I probably would have been lynched if I applied my idea of
"fair" to scoring the 0 or 10 takeoffs/landings. If you can't give it an
intermediate number... then you have to pick where to change from 10 to 0.
The generally applied choice was... it wasn't worth a 0 in a 0 through 10
scoreing... it got 10.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>What I wanted to do (but didn't because it would have been
inconsistant with ALL others) was to base the line on the class being
flown... Sportsman if it rated lower than a 5... 0. (because I couldn't
give it a 4) Intermediate break would have been 6. I didn't judge
higher... but Advanced would have broke at 7, Masters at 8.. and FAI 9. (2
mistakes on FAI takeoff would have Zeroed takeoff or landing)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>The consensus was basicly.. don't break the plane and get it
on the runway made a 10. Nothing smooth or graceful required.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I saw a few close calls even with the 0 or 10 scoring of
takeoffs and landings... under the extremely lenient system of assigning the
10's. Make the contestants earn every point on thier takeoffs and
landings... they'll have to practice them and you SHOULD see less incidents
because the pilots should be more competent at the maneuvers.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I've been known to burn full tanks of fuel doing take-off...
1/2 cuban.. touch-n-go.. 1/2 reverse cuban, touch-n-go... stall turn...
touch-n-go... (note that half these touches are downwind...) Thats what it
took for me to learn how to bring a plane home in one piece.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>A smooth graceful landing is a safe landing (and I like seeing
a well executed 3-point with a taildragger) And ability to track straight
on the runway for takeoff despite adverse wind, to make a "scale appearing"
takeoff is smooth, graceful and safe. (and deserves to get a better score than
slapping the throttle to the firewall and leaping to 6 ft ASAP to minimize
judging time) </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Takeoff and landing are where smooth and graceful REALLY
count.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Slapping the throttle to the firewall actually makes the
takeoff harder anyway... as evidenced by the scale P-51's at big bird
events. You will often see one of them doing that and paying
with major damage to the model for trying it. EVERY big bird event I have
ever gone to... 1 to 3 models damaged or destroyed by slapping the throttle
rather than smoothly accellerating. And you can't get the pilot to admit
it was his fault.. "Crosswind gust got me" "Musta been a
glitch"..... You can't fix your bad habits if you won't admit them... same
guy next year, another P-51, and another ground loop.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] If you
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<DIV><BR></DIV> I think that the run and gun TO method is sometimes
a matter of safety. If you have a heavy crosswind at your back it's best to
get the plane running in a straight direction as soon as possible. With
taildraggers liking to weather vein as they do. When we were scoring TO's on a
1 to 10 I saw a lot more close calls with the guys on the upwind flight lines.
I do agree that the landings with trike gears were spectacular.
Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Richard Strickland
<richard.s@allied-callaway.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=625243916-04102006>Cigarette butts(filters) used to make excellent
wheel chocks. It was almost automatic to pick one up on the way out
to set the plane down and stick it in front of the nose wheel...
Saved time... About the time I sort of got my act together on TOs
and landings, they quit scoring them(or I moved up and they didn't score
them)--CRS disease again...sigh... With trikes, the cool deal
was to lift the nose wheel, roll along for awhile as the airplane
gently lifted off. Landing was to wheel on the mains and gently
lower the nose-OR hold it off for a while. Seems like Steve Helms
did some of the prettiest ones....</SPAN></DIV>
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class=625243916-04102006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>With
conventional gear, pretty TOs and landings are a little more difficult to
do well, but I tend to think a guy that can run it right down the
centerline, roll it on and off smoothly OUGHT to have an edge. I
know this has been suggested before--but a guy who does lovely TOs and
landings WILL make a better initial impression and the judges
will EXPECT a better flight. The 'gun and go' guys are shooting
themselves in the foot.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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