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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I like my 4 rounds on Saturday,
and 2 rounds on Sunday, I want it to all stay the same, a 2 day
contest is perfect.Because you don't have a pattern contest every weekend so you
have allot of other weekends to spend time with your family.
Matt </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] One day
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<DIV>Everyone is correct about not trying it for intermediate... It
would take too long. The whole idea behind it is to get more flying time
for Sportsman pilots. When I started flying pattern, I passed on flying
Sportsman and started in Intermediate, simply because I wasn't about to drive
350-500 miles to fly for 20 minutes.... Also, it's good exposure
for the Sportsman pilot to get as much flying time as possible in front of
judges... They get a lot of feedback and support from the judges and
fellow flyers that they may well not get at there home field...</DIV>
<DIV>You learn more flying in a contest than you ever do just practicing
without observers. So far, it's worked very well here in D8. We
normally only get 3 rounds per day any how.... To tell you the
truth, I don't believe we've had any issue on 2 day vs 1 day contests.
We always run a 2 day contest and the Sportsman get 12 rounds of
flying... They like it! </DIV>
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<DIV>Rex Lesher</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=mailto:amad2terry@juno.com href="mailto:amad2terry@juno.com">Adrien L
Terrenoire</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 02, 2006 2:16
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] One day
contests</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Lance: It IS workable, we have been doing it for the better
part of 20<BR>years. Not for ALL classes, just Sportsman.<BR>We make sure
this class gets 4 rounds each day, weather permitting, of<BR>course. We
announce a winner Saturday night at the dinner, and present<BR>the award. In
2005, for our 50th, we even gave away a gold watch to each<BR>day's winners.
In this case, we stipulated that the same person could not<BR>win both days.
The guy who won Saturday opted not to fly Sunday, but was<BR>there
anyway.<BR><BR>You seem to missing the point that we are trying to
encourage<BR>participation in the lower class, classes. We are doing this by
trying to<BR>address the problem of committment for the newcomer. It does
work, and is<BR>workable, if the CD looks at "how can we make it work" and
NOT at "how is<BR>this a problem".<BR><BR>Terry T.<BR><BR>On Sun, 1 Oct 2006
21:24:59 -0500 "Lance Van Nostrand"<BR><<A
title=mailto:patterndude@comcast.net
href="mailto:patterndude@comcast.net">patterndude@comcast.net</A>>
writes:<BR>> As I read with interest this thread I don't see how 2 one
day <BR>> contests is <BR>> workable. sunday flying is not long enough
to have the same number <BR>> of <BR>> sportsman/intermediate rounds
and the obvious issue is that its <BR>> highly <BR>> likely that
people staying for two days are more likely to win on <BR>> both days.
<BR>> Maybe a modification is just to announce a "day 1 placing" and let
<BR>> the <BR>> contest continue. Anyone only able to stay for
one day would win <BR>> the day 1 <BR>> award and feel their
accomplishment for the time they were able to <BR>> compete. <BR>> At
the end of day 1, everyone has had the same number of rounds and <BR>>
<BR>> opportunity to be winners. The continuing dynamics can shake
things <BR>> up in <BR>> day 2, but at the end of day 1, the winners
can be announced. Award <BR>> <BR>> something simple, like a
certificate or some diet coke and mentos at <BR>> the end <BR>> of day
1 flying. People with time constraints are not limited to <BR>>
sportsman, <BR>> and this could be done at all classes.<BR>> <BR>>
--lance<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Kelly
Regan" <<A title=mailto:kelly.regan2@verizon.net
href="mailto:kelly.regan2@verizon.net">kelly.regan2@verizon.net</A>><BR>>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <<A
title=mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>>
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 7:46 PM<BR>> Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] One day contests<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > It was
nice to read all the opinions about the one day contest and <BR>>
I<BR>> > have to say that 2 one day contests for the lower classes
seems<BR>> > like a win win situation.<BR>> ><BR>> >
Speaking for myself I would not need or expect an award for a one <BR>>
day<BR>> > contest. Maybe you could save the award for the guys
that stayed <BR>> both<BR>> > days and do a combined 2 day
total. Or just print out paper <BR>> awards for<BR>> > the
one day participants and mail them later?<BR>> ><BR>> > Day
one:<BR>> > 1st<BR>> > 2nd<BR>> > 3rd<BR>> ><BR>>
> Day 2:<BR>> > 1st<BR>> > 2nd<BR>> > 3rd<BR>>
><BR>> > Combined total:<BR>> > 1st<BR>> > 2nd<BR>>
> 3rd<BR>> ><BR>> > Again this is just an idea from a new
guy.<BR>> ><BR>> > Adrien L Terrenoire wrote:<BR>> >>
In an earlier thread, I resopnded to a comment about our club <BR>>
making<BR>> >> the Sportsman class two one day contest for as long
as I can <BR>> remember,<BR>> >> and for the same length of
time, I can't remember anyone flying <BR>> just<BR>> >> one of
the days. I am sure it has happened, but the instances <BR>> have<BR>>
>> been rare. On our end, it means that we have to buy, or make up
<BR>> and<BR>> >> extra set of awards.<BR>> >><BR>>
>> Terry T.<BR>> >><BR>> >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006
08:45:31 -0400 Mike Wizynajtys<BR>> >> <<A
title=mailto:mikewiz@tcwireless.us
href="mailto:mikewiz@tcwireless.us">mikewiz@tcwireless.us</A> <<A
title=mailto:mikewiz@tcwireless.us
href="mailto:mikewiz@tcwireless.us">mailto:mikewiz@tcwireless.us</A>>>
writes:<BR>> >><BR>> >> That seems
reasonable. What if the only day you can attend is <BR>> the<BR>>
>> second day? Do contests allow that? I could
have done that <BR>> once<BR>> >> this
past summer, when a tight work deadline messed up my <BR>> plans.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> Wiz<BR>>
>><BR>> >> At 08:03 AM 9/29/2006, you
wrote:<BR>> >>> The obvious answer is to
only attend one day of a two day <BR>> event.<BR>>
>>> At the end of the first day, you pretty
much know how your <BR>> going<BR>>
>>> to stack up against the competition.
Which is the main <BR>> reason I<BR>>
>>> fly. For family reasons, I only attend
on saturday.<BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>>
>>> --------------
Original message --------------<BR>>
>>> From: Chris
Moon <<A title=mailto:cjm767driver@hotmail.com
href="mailto:cjm767driver@hotmail.com">cjm767driver@hotmail.com</A>><BR>>
>>> One day
contests really require a large number of <BR>> potential<BR>>
>>> flyers within a
reasonably short driving distance. I <BR>> think<BR>>
>>> that they were
more popular years ago when there were <BR>> more<BR>>
>>> people in
pattern. In the 80's on the East coast there <BR>> were<BR>>
>>> lots of flyers
and several one day contests. Today, we <BR>> have<BR>>
>>> people driving
400 -500 miles to a 2 day contest and <BR>> that<BR>>
>>> would not be
good for a one day event. However if you <BR>> had<BR>>
>>> enough local
people to make up for the loss of the long<BR>>
>>> distance
drivers maybe it would work. I just don't know <BR>> of<BR>>
>>> too many areas
that have enough people local to make up <BR>> an<BR>>
>>> event and not
have to rely on long distance drivers to<BR>>
>>> guarantee a
good contest with lots of competition.<BR>>
>>> I would like
some one day contests too, but not if I am <BR>> only<BR>>
>>> flying a!
gainst 1 or 2 other guys.<BR>> >>>>><BR>>
>>>>>
Chris<BR>> >>><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>>
>>
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