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<DIV><SPAN class=384222418-28092006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So
true, Great information.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoAutoSig>Jerry Gallagher</P>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>george
w. kennie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:08 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] OK it's time to
stir things up.Where'sthebeef?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#000080><<<<Has anyone
got any stats on the effectivity of the pattern primers? I know of
some new guys who’ve come into it this
way.>>>> </FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#000080>Just by way of encouragement
to those who may feel some degree of frustration at their lack of results in
trying to entice the local genre to give pattern a try. In my local area,
there are several clubs that I hold memberships in and these people have
watched me fly sequence upon sequence for about the last eight years.Some of
these individuals display some degree of interest/desire while others view my
efforts with outright disdain.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#000080>My feeling is that there is
not a heck of a lot you can do on and individual basis to induce someone
to apply themselves to the pursuit of our passion.There has to already be some
competitive/challenge aspect to their basic personality that makes them want
to conquer the unknown difficulty eating away at the root of their psyche
and if it just happens to be pattern that fires up their competitive drive at
that particular time we may have discovered a possible
conscription.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#000080>For all the years that I have
been exposing the locals to our particular art-form the peanut gallery has not
contained the enlightened/gifted someone 'til the last year or so. About a
year ago one of the local sport flyers who I had not previously known stepped
forth and informed me that his hero was none other than CPLR, and one day his
intent was to replace Christophe on the World Podium. Well I did everything I
could to encourage him to realize his dream and this year I prodded him
into attending a local primer (which he felt was a long way to travel) in
which he finished 1st in Sportsman.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#000080>Now let me tell you that this
individual is by no means an accomplished pattern flyer, but the result of
this simple achievement produced a knee-jerk reaction in his local club, as
there were other individuals who, feeling that they were certainly every bit
the flyer as he, decided that they could duplicate his
performance. </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#000080>By the next contest, we had
two new participants and lately there has been another individual expressing a
serious interest in joining the ranks. And we have noticed a couple of more
guys paying close attention to the goings on.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#000080>The important thing to
remember here is that these results don't stem from anything that I did, but
what a beginner has been able to accomplish with minimal determination.
An example set by an individual who is regarded as an equal is far more
effective than some fantastic demo put on by someone who is viewed by the
audience as occupying an unattainable status. </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#000080>Just wanted us to know that I
feel quite thrilled about these gratifying results. Thanks for
listening.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT
color=#000080>G. <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=chris@ssd.fsi.com href="mailto:chris@ssd.fsi.com">White, Chris</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 28, 2006
11:00 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] OK it's
time to stir things up. Where'sthebeef?</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Good discussion and
no doubt that If I were going to fly a contest with Jason or someone of that
caliber…I’d be there and would promote it heavily. I can sure
sympathize with their contest demands though…. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Not meaning to
change the subject, assuming it is still growing pattern…. Has anyone
got any stats on the effectivity of the pattern primers? I know
of some new guys who’ve come into it this way.
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mike Hester<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:47
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
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w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] OK it's
time to stir things up. Where's thebeef?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I like the idea of "qualifying"
by flying at least 3 contests prior to the team trials. Didn't we used to do
this? However, as has been stated, there are other
factors.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Somebody mentioned Jason, he is
an exception. But has been for years. he not only competes locally, but is
also active on the lists and forums, very helpful, usually not
arguementative, and you don't get the feeling that his comments are tainted
by sponsorship. Also, he's an absolute riot to be around at contests.
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now here's one huge problem,
let's take right now for instance. Take any local pattern contest, what's
the prize for 1st place? Usually a piece of wood and a "you da man!" What's
the top prize for the Don Lowe masters? A pretty good paycheck. So, other
things may take priority.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Keep in mind these guys are
playing a different game than most of us. There's money involved, and
they're playing for keeps. Anywhere there's competition, there's going to be
money involved. It's just a question of
degree.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">On the sponsorship
stickers....c'mon man, I had stickers on my plane when I wasn't sponsored. I
liked the idea of advertising and supporting a company/product I really
liked, or had treated me exceptionally well. The only issue I've ever had
with sponsorships is that in certain cases, you have to make sure the
sponsored person is telling you the WHOLE truth, and giving the right advise
to the right person. An FAI pilot telling a sportsman guy how to equip and
set up his plane is cool at first glance, but if the sportsman guy flies the
exact same set up at the FAI guy, he may be in way over his head. The
sequences require different things. In FAI performance is the #1
consideration, in sportsman reliability is much more
important.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just adding some stirring, this
one ain't boiling yet =)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-Mike</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
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Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:03 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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[NSRCA-discussion] OK it's time to stir things up. Where's the
beef?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> I have an observation that I've made that
disturbes me. I don't think that we are getting enough of the top notch or
team worthy flyers participating on a local level.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> I think that in the future the team trials
need to be revamped so that a flyer wanting to make the team would be
required to fly in at least 3 to 5 local contests per
year.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> Here's why I think this is important. We
need the top names in our sport to be part of the sport from a leadership
standpoint. Imagine a QQ showing up to fly against Andrew at a local
contest. It would be much more exciting to watch and it would therefore
promote more interest. If we continue on the path we are going interest in
pattern will continue to slide.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> In the 70's when the team selection was
known as the Masters you had to fly your way into the contest by
accumulating points on the local level. It was exciting. Were totally
missing the boat with our present
system.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> So here's the deal. Support the real pattern
flyers who make the effort to support us and we will all be better off. Oh
and for what it's worth I think we would be better off all around if we
didn't allow any stickers or blatant advertising of any products in our
sport. Let's get back to the flyers who do it on there own without all the
sponsorships.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> All this is just what I've seen in
the last 6 years of flying after a 15 year absence for the hobby.
TIA for letting me vent and as my budddy Bobby Satalino would say "Have a
nice day"! Mike
Mueller<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. <A
href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42974/*http:/www.yahoo.com/preview">Check
it out.</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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