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<DIV><FONT size=2>In my earlier reply... I didn't think about the need for a ply
support "false rib"... just repair of damaged foam. The expanding glue
does not replace the need for a lite ply rib when one is needed. It does
fill just about any size void in a damaged foam wing core.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=verne@twmi.rr.com href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">Verne Koester</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 11, 2006 9:41
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Wing tube
phenolic repair "help"</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I concur, and do the same to the other
wing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Verne</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=dunnaway@geopath.com href="mailto:dunnaway@geopath.com">Joe
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 11, 2006 9:58
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Wing
tube phenolic repair "help"</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=588005213-11082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Anthony,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=588005213-11082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> It sounds like they didn't install a false rib
out at the end of the tube.... The foam is breaking up and there is no
support for the wing tube. You are correct about installing a
rib. A lot of the guys flying Impulses had the same
problem. The wing was built without a rib to hold the wing tube.
The fix is exactly what you describe below. Cut a slot in the
bottom of the wing and install a rib.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Anthony Abdullah<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 11, 2006 8:23
AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Wing tube phenolic repair "help"<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I am unfamiliar with that adhesive, what is the brand name and where
would I get it. This sounds a lot simpler than what I was planning. Will
that glue run into whatever empty spots there are in there? Will it not pool
up into clumps and just glue the small area at the point of injestion? What
do I clean it up with?</DIV>
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<DIV>I was thinking about a rib installed from the bottom. I thought I might
cut a slot in the sheeting and through the foam about two inches in
from the outboard tip of the phenolic. I could clean the slot up with my
soldering iron and make it real straight and uniform. Then I was going
to cut an airfoil shaped rib and glue it into the slot. A little light
filler, some sanding and some monokote and it should be as good as new.
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What do you guys think about that idea? Do you think it will be strong
and light enough? It is certainly more labor intensive and time
consuming, but my goal is peace of mind. I don't want to worry
about my wing folding every time I pull a square manuever or perform a
snap roll. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks again for your help!</DIV>
<DIV>Anthony<BR><BR><B><I>Ed Alt <ed_alt@hotmail.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It's best to use the polyurethane glue as Bob
recommended. It's going to expand to fill the void and it's going to
be alot lighter than epoxy. I've done this repair successfully on
35% gas stuff and it really holds up well. The only downside is that
it's messy. You have to either mop up affter it while it is
catalyzing and oozing out of the holes, or else shave it off a razor later
on. I think it's easier to mop & lightly sand when cured.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=lightfoot@sc.rr.com href="mailto:lightfoot@sc.rr.com">Jay
Marshall</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 11, 2006 6:48
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Wing tube phenolic repair "help"</DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How about a
hypo and some epoxy?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Anthony
Abdullah<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:43 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [NSRCA-discussion] Wing
tube phenolic repair "help"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I was just
about finished setting up my Odyssey when I noticed that the wing seemed
a little loose. If I hold the fuselage the right
wing panel can wiggle up and down a noticable amount. I
thought that maybe the tube mount at the fuse was loose but that
was not the case. As it turns out, the phenolic in my completed wing is
loose about 3/4 of the way down and is wiggling around. It almost feels
like the foam in the sheeted foam core wing has been
somehow dislodged and the phenolic is in just a hollow cavern
instead of solidly glued to the wing. It is still glued solid at
the root so it won't slide out, but it obviously can not be flown in
that condition.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Question:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">How do I go
about repairing the foam that the phenolic mounts to? The wing
is sheeted, covered, and trimmed (complete) and I would like to
keep from having to start all over again. Getting out the old one will
also be an issue as it is still partially glued in.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am open to
any and all suggestions.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks in
advance<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
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