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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Boy, Fred,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You hit the nail right on the head. That's exactly
what's been happening to mine and your diagnosis is so right-on.When the thing
is flying it makes the sound of crinkling cellophane and becomes a handful that
you immediately want to get back on the ground asap.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for the heads-up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>G.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=fhhuber@clearwire.com href="mailto:fhhuber@clearwire.com">Fred
Huber</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:01
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chasing
glitches (was Lost Abbra)</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>my solution to the covering was to apply some thinned
balsarite to the back of the loose covering then iron it back down. Then
I applied a little thinned dope (good old butyrate dope) to the edges of the
trim that hadn't come off.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Any of the blue that I missed... has peeled.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Be sure you get the blue strips on the top of the wing
secured. I had one that came loose except at wing root and wingtip...
might as well have deployed a spoiler on just that wing. The only thing
that worked for keeping the plane out of the trees was holding it JUST above
stall speed at medium power. (high alpha slow flight) took me
several seconds to get a hanle on it. I was SURE I had an aileron stuck
at full travel from how the plane responded.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=geobet@gis.net href="mailto:geobet@gis.net">george w. kennie</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:58
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chasing
glitches (was Lost Abbra)</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hey Fred,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Were you able to arrive at a solution for the
covering coming loose on your Quest???????? I am experiencing the same
problem. Would really like to know a good fix.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Georgie</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=fhhuber@clearwire.com href="mailto:fhhuber@clearwire.com">Fred
Huber</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 07, 2006 1:30
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] Chasing
glitches (was Lost Abbra)</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I'm currently chasing a RX problem which nearly cost me
the plane.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Many flights with no radio problems. (had a couple
of instances of covering comming lose on the ARF....)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Goofe up and caused a servo to over-travel stripping a
gear, so I replaced the servo. 3 flights after that with no
radio issues. Then I stuck in an RX volt-watch device. 2 more
flights no problems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Got to flying it around the last time it was in the air
and the plane started glitching, so I landed. When the plane stopped
at the end of the runway (less than 75% of my normal antenna down range
check distance) controls went absolutely nuts, including throttle. (which
is really strange because its an electric model)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>When the glitching occurs, it pulls the volt-watch meter
down to the lowest indicating light.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The plene:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Quest 3D G2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>AXi 4120/18 using Jeti 70 amp ESC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Hitech Supreme 8 RX</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>4 Blue Bird 621 servos (90 in oz)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2700 mah 4-cell NiCd RX battery (ESC has no BEC
function)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2 X 3s 3600 mah LiPo for 6s power (appx 11 to
12 min of Sportsman level Pattern per charge)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Polks Tracker-III TX</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I've swapped out every servo (I have 4
spares)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I swapped to a Futaba 127 DF RX and to a Polks Seeker-II
and a Seeker 6</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Changed the switch harness to an MPI heavy duty with
volt indicator.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Changed to a 900 mah 4-cell NiCd for the RX</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Tested with and without the volt-watch</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Only had one good range check since the problems started
with an RX anywhere near the airplane, that was with just the motor and
the rudder servo plugged in. (original RX)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Wierd part... the whole radio system works fine if I
pull it out of the plane and lay it on the ground similar to how its laid
out in the plane., including the long servo extensions for ailerons
and elevator an the motor system. (put it back and the glitching is
back) This is repeatable with any combination of the servos I
have.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The other RX's tested all work in the planes they are
normally used for.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>TX operates all other planes I have with no issues. (I
only use 2 frequencies even though I have a few synth RX's and the TX is
synthesized)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Current antenna down range check is 50% of my norm, so I
don't dare fly it. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I've been thinking of putting together "glitch busters"
( <A href="">http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/gadgets.htm</A> )
for use on the long lead channels, but can't see why I should need them if
the system worked for appx 3 months without them. I have had a plane
with exgensions that added up to right at 1 meter where the devoces
cured problems , but those existed from first time the radio was plugged
together.</FONT></DIV>
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