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<DIV><FONT size=2>There were a few others at the field when I had the covering
come loose causing the almost total loss of control. I was hollering "I
haven't got it!" and "I think I lost the ailerons" and all kinds of other
stuff.... "@#%@# #$^#$^ #$^%^".... But I kept fighting for
control.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Paul Horan (in case you know him, he's one of the local club
members and a Pattern flyer) ran up and was undecided if he should try to take
over.. talk me through it or just leave me alone. <VBG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The thing was a ROYAL BEAST!</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=geobet@gis.net href="mailto:geobet@gis.net">george w. kennie</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:54
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chasing
glitches (was Lost Abbra)</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Boy, Fred,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You hit the nail right on the head. That's
exactly what's been happening to mine and your diagnosis is so right-on.When
the thing is flying it makes the sound of crinkling cellophane and becomes a
handful that you immediately want to get back on the ground asap.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for the heads-up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>G.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=fhhuber@clearwire.com href="mailto:fhhuber@clearwire.com">Fred
Huber</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:01
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chasing
glitches (was Lost Abbra)</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>my solution to the covering was to apply some thinned
balsarite to the back of the loose covering then iron it back down.
Then I applied a little thinned dope (good old butyrate dope) to the edges
of the trim that hadn't come off.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Any of the blue that I missed... has peeled.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Be sure you get the blue strips on the top of the wing
secured. I had one that came loose except at wing root and wingtip...
might as well have deployed a spoiler on just that wing. The only
thing that worked for keeping the plane out of the trees was holding it JUST
above stall speed at medium power. (high alpha slow flight) took
me several seconds to get a hanle on it. I was SURE I had an aileron
stuck at full travel from how the plane responded.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=geobet@gis.net href="mailto:geobet@gis.net">george w. kennie</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:58
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Chasing glitches (was Lost Abbra)</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hey Fred,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Were you able to arrive at a solution for the
covering coming loose on your Quest???????? I am experiencing the
same problem. Would really like to know a good fix.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Georgie</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=fhhuber@clearwire.com href="mailto:fhhuber@clearwire.com">Fred
Huber</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 07, 2006 1:30
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] Chasing
glitches (was Lost Abbra)</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I'm currently chasing a RX problem which nearly cost
me the plane.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Many flights with no radio problems. (had a
couple of instances of covering comming lose on the
ARF....)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Goofe up and caused a servo to over-travel stripping a
gear, so I replaced the servo. 3 flights after that with no
radio issues. Then I stuck in an RX volt-watch device. 2
more flights no problems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Got to flying it around the last time it was in the
air and the plane started glitching, so I landed. When the plane
stopped at the end of the runway (less than 75% of my normal antenna
down range check distance) controls went absolutely nuts, including
throttle. (which is really strange because its an electric
model)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>When the glitching occurs, it pulls the volt-watch
meter down to the lowest indicating light.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The plene:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Quest 3D G2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>AXi 4120/18 using Jeti 70 amp ESC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Hitech Supreme 8 RX</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>4 Blue Bird 621 servos (90 in oz)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2700 mah 4-cell NiCd RX battery (ESC has no BEC
function)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2 X 3s 3600 mah LiPo for 6s power (appx 11 to
12 min of Sportsman level Pattern per charge)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Polks Tracker-III TX</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I've swapped out every servo (I have 4
spares)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I swapped to a Futaba 127 DF RX and to a Polks
Seeker-II and a Seeker 6</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Changed the switch harness to an MPI heavy duty with
volt indicator.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Changed to a 900 mah 4-cell NiCd for the
RX</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Tested with and without the volt-watch</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Only had one good range check since the problems
started with an RX anywhere near the airplane, that was with just the
motor and the rudder servo plugged in. (original RX)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Wierd part... the whole radio system works fine if I
pull it out of the plane and lay it on the ground similar to how its
laid out in the plane., including the long servo extensions for
ailerons and elevator an the motor system. (put it back and the
glitching is back) This is repeatable with any combination of the
servos I have.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The other RX's tested all work in the planes they are
normally used for.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>TX operates all other planes I have with no issues. (I
only use 2 frequencies even though I have a few synth RX's and the TX is
synthesized)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Current antenna down range check is 50% of my norm, so
I don't dare fly it. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I've been thinking of putting together "glitch
busters" ( <A
href="">http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/gadgets/gadgets.htm</A> )
for use on the long lead channels, but can't see why I should need them
if the system worked for appx 3 months without them. I have had a
plane with exgensions that added up to right at 1 meter where the
devoces cured problems , but those existed from first time the radio was
plugged together.</FONT></DIV>
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