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</span>I think he said he didn’t have time to try throttle and rudder—engine at
idle.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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</span>RS<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Fred Huber<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 07, 2006 6:55
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Lost Abbra</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>But... he
still didn't have throttle response, so... there had to be some form of control
loss. A stall MIGHT explain the rest, but I kind of doubt that was it.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>BTW... I have
the SAD emblem stickers on my plane. </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Aircraftus
Fragmentum</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>-----
Original Message -----</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-weight:bold'>
<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:richard.s@allied-callaway.com"
title="richard.s@allied-callaway.com">Richard Strickland</a> </span></font></div>
<font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>
<div DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial">To:</span></font></b><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</a> </span></font></div>
<font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:black;font-weight:bold'>
<div DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent:</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> Monday, August 07, 2006 5:49 PM</div>
</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject:</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Lost Abbra</div>
</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span
class=emailstyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I suppose that
if the airplane were over rotated by 90 degrees and at least still in a
semi-stalled condition in knife-edge, the controls would potentially be slow to
respond.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>In a right hand
snap, the right wing would be stalled and if it were pointed toward the
ground-still stalled--and the fuse was washing out the
left-upper-un-stalled--panel, then that would account for the
non-responsiveness of the ailerons.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>Aircraft can still be stalled at high speeds and depending on the timing
and amount of input-maybe exaggerated with high rates with big expo, a
secondary stall/spin can take place making you wonder 'how did THAT happen?!'.<span
DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Not all that unlikely a
circumstance with as slippery as these critters are....<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>And you might have just had some really lousy luck with wind
shear at that precise moment.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I
am a Charter Member of SAD.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>RS<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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class=emailstyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>vicenterc@comcast.net<br>
<b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></span></b>
Sunday, August 06, 2006 6:52 PM<br>
<b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></span></b>
[NSRCA-discussion] Lost Abbra</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Yes,
yesterday afternoon I lost my Abbra. I was doing the 45 degree down
with snap. After the snap, I could not control the plane. This is
my recollection of events:</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>1. I over rotated the snap for a
kittle more than 90 degrees. It was clear to me at that early stage that
something was going wrong. I snapped to the right. </span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>2. My friend Charlie was calling for
me. He also noticed and said something to put it back in
position. I told him that the plane was not responding. </span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>3. First reaction was to give full left to
get it back upright. The ailerons did not respond. When I realized
that, I tried to take it out of the dive by given down elevator since was
pracically in inverted position. It did not respond. It that
aptitude everything goes very fast. Finally, I tried to give up elevator but
was already too late. I am aware that I applied these control input. <span
DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>It was clear to me that there
was no reaction. <span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I
was able to realize that I didn't have control and I could not avoid the
crash. </span></span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>4. I did not have time to do anything with
rudder and throttle. Throttle was at idle. </span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'
DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>5. When we checked the crash site. One
aileron servo was buzzing hard. I disconnected the servo.
Therefore, my first impression that the battery flew off and it got
disconnected with the force of the snap was not valid.</span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'
DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>6. I took the plane home as it came from
the crash.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I
disconnected only the ailerons servos. <span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I
checked the radio and everything is working fine. Only two servos are not
working. The throttle servo that was practically destroyed in the crash
and one aileron servo that the gears were stripped.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>I believe that this was caused by the force of the impact. <span
DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>There was not evidence of
flutter in the ailerons before the crash or structural damage after coming out
of the snap.</span></span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'
DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>7.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>I believe that the plane was well over stall speed after the snap. <span
DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Therefore, the plane was not in
stalled condition.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>However,
I could be wrong.</span></span></font><font color=black><span style='color:
black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'
DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>7. I use JR all around with digital
servos. PCM receiver with fail safe programmed to cut engine and leave
the servos in the last commanded position. </span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'
DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>8. I use 2300 mah NiMh battery (4 cells AA
Sanyo). I checked the battery voltage and was at 5.15 volts after the
crash. Discharged the battery and gave 1540 mah using 250mah rate.
I am planning to cycle the battery with higher loads. </span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'
DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>9. It was very hot day. The plane
was sitting in the sun and it was second fly of the day around 2:00 PM.
Easily was close to 100 oF. </span></span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'
DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:75.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'
DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>At this point, I have to admit that has to
be pilot error since I have not been able to find a definitive cause of the crash.
It is clear that the snap initiated some kind of failure. Other pilots
think that the NiMh battery gave up at high currents during the snap and caused
the crash. I have been flying this type of battery for two years now with
no problems. </span></span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I am informing this to the group since I
would like to have your feedback. <span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>If
someone had a similar problem and found the cause of the crash, please let me
know. I am going back to my backup plane (the old hydeout). I have
a brand new Abbra so need to put it together. </span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Thanks and have a nice day,</span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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