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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have the same problem with mine….I
check the readouts before each flight and have security tape on the door with
the battery squeezed in place….(its ugly, but you can’t see it in
the tray….) No problem has been encountered with the tape in place.
If I experience a control failure I hope I remember (and have time) to
squeeze the TX door!!!! I used to have the same problem with a Futaba 5UAP
until I wired in a Futaba J connector and bypassed the battery module concept. I
do not like battery modules… I like connectors with pigtails</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Keith Black<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 08, 2006
11:26 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Lost Abbra</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Vince,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I think it's probably wise to secure the battery, but I'm a
bit skeptical that that was the problem, here is why.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I also have a 10X and when I set it down the other day with
a slight jar it turned itself off (as is being described here). In order to get
it to turn back on I had to apply pressure to the battery compartment. I then
started playing with it by shaking it to get it to turn off, but never did it
turn back on without some action on my part. Also, the radio chirps when it's
turned on. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I suppose it's possible that it could turn itself OFF then
ON, but it would be extremely coincidental for it to be OFF just long enough to
crash, then ON when you looked at it, plus you might have heard the chirp if
this had happened (though I understand you were probably in a state of shock at
the time).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Do you use flight modes? If so, were you in FM1?
The reason I ask is if you're in anything other than FM1</span></font> <font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>then the RX
will give you a warning when powered up.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Are you using the new synthesized TX module and RX?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Keith</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net" title="vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</a>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> ; <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Tuesday, August
08, 2006 10:51 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Lost Abbra<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>That is correct. As we know, mother ground after the snap at
the 45 degree down line is getting closer at around 60+ mph. It is
not good feeling and time past very fast in that particular situation. I
wish that the plane was flying level. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I checked last night and the fail safe is programmed to go all neutral
in all surfaces and give a little up elevator. After I lost control, I
noticed that the plane that was almost inverted increased the angle as was
approaching to the ground. Therefore, I am almost 100% sure
that the fail-safe took over. The theory that something happen to
the TX has to be consider now. Jon Lowe suggested to check the
transmitter battery door. I noticed that the door lash in mine
is very weak. Now, I am wondering if the power to the transmitter got
disconnected for few seconds and caused the crash. Actually, I
was helping a friend to set up his JR 10X few days before and the
power to the TX went suddenly off. The problem was that the battery
moved down and got disconnected. Checking last night, I found that
requires just a fraction of an inch to get disconnected. ! I am
going to follow Jon advise. I am going to secure the battery cassette and
make sure that the door stays closed. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>-------------- Original message -------------- <br>
From: "Richard Strickland" <richard.s@allied-callaway.com> <br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>
I think he said he didn’t have time to try throttle and
rudder—engine at idle.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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RS<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Fred Huber<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 07, 2006 6:55
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Lost Abbra</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>But... he
still didn't have throttle response, so... there had to be some form of control
loss. A stall MIGHT explain the rest, but I kind of doubt that was it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>BTW... I have
the SAD emblem stickers on my plane. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Aircraftus
Fragmentum</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>-----
Original Message -----</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:richard.s@allied-callaway.com"
title="richard.s@allied-callaway.com">Richard Strickland</a> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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bold'>To:</span></font></b><font color=black><span style='color:black'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</a> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;font-weight:
bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font color=black><span style='color:black'>
Monday, August 07, 2006 5:49 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;font-weight:
bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font color=black><span style='color:black'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Lost Abbra<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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class=emailstyle15><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I suppose that if the airplane were over
rotated by 90 degrees and at least still in a semi-stalled condition in
knife-edge, the controls would potentially be slow to respond.<span
DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>In a right hand snap, the
right wing would be stalled and if it were pointed toward the ground-still
stalled--and the fuse was washing out the left-upper-un-stalled! --panel , then
that would account for the non-responsiveness of the ailerons.<span
DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Aircraft can still be stalled
at high speeds and depending on the timing and amount of input-maybe
exaggerated with high rates with big expo, a secondary stall/spin can take
place making you wonder 'how did THAT happen?!'.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>Not all that unlikely a circumstance with as slippery as these critters
are....<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>And you
might have just had some really lousy luck with wind shear at that precise
moment.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I am a Charter
Member of SAD.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Lost Abbra</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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border:none;padding:0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'></span>Yes, yesterday afternoon I
lost my Abbra. I was doing the 45 degree down with snap. After
the snap, I could not control the plane. This is my recollection of
events:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
border:none;padding:0in' DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>1. I over rotated the snap for a
kittle more than 90 degrees. It was clear to me at that early stage that
something was going wrong. I snapped to the right. </span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
border:none;padding:0in' DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>2. My friend Charlie was calling for
me. He also noticed and said something to put it back in
position. I told him that the plane was not responding. </span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
border:none;padding:0in' DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>3. First reaction was to give full left to
get it back upright. The ailerons did not respond. When I realized
that, I tried to take it out of the dive by given down elevator since was
pracically in inverted position. It did not respond. It that
aptitude everything goes very fast. Finally, I tried to give up elevator
but was already too late. I am aware that I applied these control input. <span
YLE="ms o-spacerun: yes" DEFANGED_ST!> </span>It was clear to me
that there was no reaction. <span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I
was able to realize that I didn't have control and I could not avoid the
crash. </span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
border:none;padding:0in' DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>4. I did not have time to do anything with
rudder and throttle. Throttle was at idle. </span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
border:none;padding:0in' DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>5. When we checked the crash site. One
aileron servo was buzzing hard. I disconnected the servo.
Therefore, my first impression that the battery flew off and it got
disconnected with the force of the snap was not valid.</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
border:none;padding:0in' DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>6. I took the plane home as it came from
the crash.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I disconnected
only the ailerons servos. <span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I
checked the radio and everything is working fine. Only two servos are not
working. The throttle servo that was practically destroyed in the crash
and one aileron servo that the gears were stripped.<span _STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"
DEFANGED!> </span>I believe that this was caused by the force of the
impact. <span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>There was not
evidence of flutter in the ailerons before the crash or structural damage after
coming out of the snap.</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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border:none;padding:0in' DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>7.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>I believe that the plane was well over stall speed after the snap. <span
DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Therefore, the plane was not in
stalled condition.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>However,
I could be wrong.</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
border:none;padding:0in' DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>7. I use JR all around with digital
servos. PCM receiver with fail safe programmed to cut engine and leave
the servos in the last commanded position. </span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
border:none;padding:0in' DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>8. I use 2300 mah NiMh battery (4 cells AA
Sanyo). I checked the battery voltage and was at 5.15 volts after the
crash. Discharged the battery and gave 1540 mah using 250mah rate.
I am planning to cycle the battery with higher loads. </span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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border:none;padding:0in' DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>9. It was very hot day. The plane
was sitting in the sun and it was second fly of the day around 2:00 PM.
Easily was close to 100 oF. </span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
border:none;padding:0in' DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>At this point, I have to admit that has to
be pilot error since I have not been able to find a definitive cause of the
crash. It is clear that the snap initiated some kind of failure.
Other pilots think that the NiMh battery gave up at high currents during the
snap and caused the crash. I have been flying this type of battery for
two years now with no problems. </span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I am informing this to the group since I
would like to have your feedback. <span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>If
someone had a similar problem and found the cause of the crash, please let me
know. I am going back to my backup plane (the old hydeout). I have
a brand new Abbra so need to put it together. </span></span></font><span
!>< /o:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Thanks and have a nice day,</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Vicente Bortone</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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