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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To check for bad spots it is necessary to
move each servo SLOWLY, one at a time and watch for the others to glitch. Moving
them rapidly will run right past a bad spot and you won’t see it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Could the root cause been RFI?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>vicenterc@comcast.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 07, 2006
11:57 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List; NSRCA
Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Lost Abbra</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I did it. I tested the system after discharging
the battery. I plugged all servos but the throttle servo that was destroy
in the crash. Everything was working fine. I used the test feature
of the JR 10X to keep the servos moving. I didn't get any smoke because
the stalled servo has the gears stalled but the motor is running freely. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I got a question. It was very hot here in Kansas
last Saturday. A fellow club member told me that NiMh batteries are
susceptible to Kansas heat. It was over 100oF and inside the plane could
have been 140oF. Any experience seeing NiMh failing in these conditions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>-------------- Original message -------------- <br>
From: "J.Oddino" <joddino@socal.rr.com> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A stalled or locked up servo could
pull the voltage down and essentially turn off the radio but it would seem to
me that it would take some time and the other servos would at least start back
to neutral after the snap inputs are removed. He could try plugging in
the jammed servo and see what happens but be ready to unplug it before it
starts smoking.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim O</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" title="vanputte@cox.net">Ron Van Putte</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Sunday,
August 06, 2006 8:01 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Lost Abbra<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Aug 6, 2006, at 9:50 PM, <a
href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The battery was a little over a year old. I
cycled the battery after the crash and got around 1540 mah. It was
freshly charged and I was in the second fly. I use around 200 mah per fly
so the battery was close to 2000 mah. I always charge at C/10 and never
fast charged. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am discharging the battery now at 500 mah. I
discharged the first time at 250 mah. I will keep increasing the
discharge rate to check if I find something wrong. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am willing to bet that you will find a bad
servo. Maybe Jim Oddino or one of the other radio wizards can explain,
but a single servo can cause the whole system to crash.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>-------------- Original message -------------- <br>
From: "Scott Anderson" <<a href="mailto:scott@rcfoamy.com">scott@rcfoamy.com</a>>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=4 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>How old are the NiMh
batteries... People have found the have a steep drop off when going bad..</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>scott</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net" title="vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> ; <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:fhhuber@clearwire.com" title="fhhuber@clearwire.com">Fred Huber</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Sunday,
August 06, 2006 10:19 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Lost Abbra<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Fred,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Usually I called pilot (and/or mechanic) error until I
find the cause of the crash. I haven't been in this position in
a very long time. I tend to agree with you since it was clear that I
didn't have control. However, the radio is working even after such a
crash. There was a comment at the field that NiMh batteries can
cause this problem. I will check the battery as much as
possible (cycle increasing the current draws) but not sure if
the test will be valid.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Vicente "Vince" Bortone <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>-------------- Original message -------------- <br>
From: "Fred Huber" <<a href="mailto:fhhuber@clearwire.com">fhhuber@clearwire.com</a>>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>In that case... it may have gone to lock out just as
it was finishing the snap... rather than your control input to get out of the
rotation, the surfaces go to neutral, it over-rotates and then plays lawn dart.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>No response at all its very easy to thing failsafe
lockout. Since the engine was already at the failsafe setting, you
don't have that indicator to confirm (or refute) the lockout.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I wouldn't call it pilot error when the control input
attempts you made simply had no effect...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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August 06, 2006 7:15 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
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[NSRCA-discussion] Lost Abbra<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am wrong below in regard the fail safe in regard the
fail safe. The fail safe is programmed to cut the engine and set the
control surfaces at neutral. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: <a href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Yes, yesterday afternoon I lost my Abbra. I
was doing the 45 degree down with snap. After the snap, I could not
control the plane. This is my recollection of events:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>1. I over rotated the snap for a kittle more than
90 degrees. It was clear to me at that early stage that something was
going wrong. I snapped to the right. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2. My friend Charlie was calling for me. He
also noticed and said something to put it back in position. I told
him that the plane was not responding. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>3. First reaction was to give full left to get it back
upright. The ailerons did not respond. When I realized that, I
tried to take it out of the dive by given down elevator since was pracically in
inverted position. It did not respond. It that aptitude everything
goes very fast. Finally, I tried to give up elevator but was already too
late. I am aware that I applied these control input.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>It was clear to me that there was no
reaction.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I was able to realize
that I didn't have control and I could not avoid the crash. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>4. I did not have time to do anything with rudder and
throttle. Throttle was at idle. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>5. When we checked the crash site. One aileron servo
was buzzing hard. I disconnected the servo. Therefore, my first
impression that the battery flew off and it got disconnected with the force of
the snap was not valid.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>6. I took the plane home as it came from the
crash.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I disconnected only the ailerons
servos.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I checked the radio and
everything is working fine. Only two servos are not working. The
throttle servo that was practically destroyed in the crash and one aileron
servo that the gears were stripped.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>I believe that this was caused by the force of the impact.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>There was not evidence of flutter in the
ailerons before the crash or structural damage after coming out of the snap.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>7.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I
believe that the plane was well over stall speed after the snap.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Therefore, the plane was not in stalled
condition.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>However, I could be
wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>7. I use JR all around with digital servos.
PCM receiver with fail safe programmed to cut engine and leave the servos in
the last commanded position. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>8. I use 2300 mah NiMh battery (4 cells AA
Sanyo). I checked the battery voltage and was at 5.15 volts after the
crash. Discharged the battery and gave 1540 mah using 250mah rate.
I am planning to cycle the battery with higher loads. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>9. It was very hot day. The plane was sitting in
the sun and it was second fly of the day around 2:00 PM. Easily was close
to 100 oF. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>At this point, I have to admit that has to be pilot
error since I have not been able to find a definitive cause of the crash.
It is clear that the snap initiated some kind of failure. Other pilots
think that the NiMh battery gave up at high currents during the snap and caused
the crash. I have been flying this type of battery for two years now with
no problems. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am informing this to the group since I would like to
have your feedback.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>If someone had a
similar problem and found the cause of the crash, please let me know. I
am going back to my backup plane (the old hydeout). I have a brand new
Abbra so need to put it together. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<O:P></O:P></div>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks and have a nice day,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Vicente Bortone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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