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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nope!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
Your still illogical. Teams in the worlds are defined by countries. Are you
saying pick a US team out of the Nationals p-07 group and score it? Still
doesn't make sense.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Elucidate at your leisure!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can't do district results without contestant data
files, which I would hastily add, I do not have access to this year -
Eric.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=jshulman@cfl.rr.com href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">JShulman</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:03
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] me, at
the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=620025815-03082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Eric,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=620025815-03082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=620025815-03082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I don't
think it's unfair to ask George about this. There is no need to define a
"team" or what the "team" would be flying against. There were 8 finalists
(even though one was a Canadian) that flew well enough to be in the finals,
and I would just like to see how we did in the P-07. Remember, the Team at the
Worlds is determined by P-07, and hypothetically looking at P-07 we would see
who did the best (in George's eye) in P-07. Again, please remember, this is
all for FUN and nothing more.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=620025815-03082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=620025815-03082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Also, when
are you going to have the District results for us Eric... it's only
Excel...lol.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT
size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Grow
Pattern<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:09 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] me, at the
Nats<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jason,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ref. "<FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=040533323-02082006>Hey George, if you feel like
it, how about posting the results of the Finalists P-07 rounds? See how a
"Team" would have done."</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It's a bit unfair to ask Georgie to do that
because he can't do it unless you, a) define a team and, b)
define what teams that team would be flying against.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At one time I was hoping that we would have
District team awards in our FAI prelims and in each of the other
classes. It would have been great to see which districts won a
"National" team title. It did not have to be an AMA award but just like
our district individual District champions it would have added a
nice flavor. I think it was a wee bit too radical at the time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You could do it now. All you have to do is add
up the top three scores from each district in each class. You could do it in
Excel in about four minutes if you had the results files and plugged in a
district column. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One for Rusty Dose perhaps?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,<BR><BR>Eric.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=jshulman@cfl.rr.com
href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">JShulman</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:52
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] me,
at the Nats</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=040533323-02082006>Hi
George,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=040533323-02082006>Great
write-up, again, and as always it's fun seeing how you scored us.
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>It was great to sit and chat with you at the
times we did.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=040533323-02082006>I
really enjoyed this years Nats. I made it a point to make this a FUN Nats
for myself, my friends and anyone that was around me. I think it happened.
But I think it drained me of most of my energy, so next year I'll have to
be more "serious".</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=040533323-02082006>Just
for fun, I dropped the lowest of each F-07 and Unknowns like we would to
determine the winner and the results are as follows:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><SPAN class=040533323-02082006><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial>Jay
F-07-1 = 998, Unk -2 = 1000 Total
= <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>1998</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><SPAN class=040533323-02082006><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Chip <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>F-07-2 =
971, <SPAN class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Unk -2 =
997 <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>
</SPAN>Total = <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>1968</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN>
<DIV><SPAN class=040533323-02082006></SPAN><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff>Don <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>
</SPAN>F-07-1 = 965, <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Unk - 1 =1000<SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Total = <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>1965</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=040533323-02082006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Sean <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>F-07-2 =
984, <SPAN class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Unk - 1 =
978 <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Total = <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>1962</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>QQ
F-07-1 = 959, Unk - 1 = 987<SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Total
= <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>1946</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=040533323-02082006><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Andrew <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>F-07-1 = 1000, Unk-2 =
942 <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Total
= <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>1942</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=040533323-02082006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Dave L <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN> F-07-2 = 946, <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Unk - 1 = 959<SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Total
= <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>1905</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>Chad <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>F-07-1 =
895, <SPAN class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Unk-2 =
911 <SPAN
class=040533323-02082006> </SPAN>Total
= <SPAN class=040533323-02082006>1806</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>As you can see, the results changed a little bit:
1st = Jay, 2nd = Chip, 3rd = Don, 4th = Sean, 5th = QQ, 6th = Andrew, 7th
= Dave L., 8th = Chad</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>Anyone else have a "score card" to add to the
fun?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=040533323-02082006>Hey George, if you feel like it, how about
posting the results of the Finalists P-07 rounds? See how a "Team" would
have done.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT
size=2>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR>www.jasonshulman.com<BR>www.shulmanaviation.com<BR>www.composite-arf.com</FONT>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>george w. kennie<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 7:23
PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B>
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<P>OK Guys, here goes............................</P>
<P>2006 Nats is history and being there was, as always, a priviledge
that I will probably not be able to enjoy for too many more years, but
the experience creates an indelible memory event that burns in your
psyche for an indefinite period of time.</P>
<P>The really special part of the experience is the people. I think that
this is my 5th year and renewing aquaintances previously made and
meeting new people is fabulous. I arrived Sat nite and got my tent set
up in it's usual place and realized that it was still light out as this
is the first year that Indiana has gone on Daylight Savings time so it
was light out 'til almost quarter to ten. There was more than one nite
that Sean McMurtry was actually flying at 9:30 P.M.</P>
<P>Sunday morning saw me out on the flight line early and Troy was
putting up some practice flights and we spent a few minutes
discussing/sharing flight elements and execution anomalies and
corrective inputs. Received so many familiar hellos from the likes of
Earl, Robert G., Harry Ells, the Canadians, the D1 guys, and so many
that they are too numerous to mention. Also spent quite a few minutes
talking with Sean who is a real friendly individual and a real
gentleman, who informed me that he was competing with Naruke's actual
airplane. That thing was gorgeous and the detail of the craftsmanship
was astounding.The pipe mount was to die for! Instantaneously removable
and absolutely foolproof ! What a work of art.</P>
<P>Up to now I had been at site 1 so I decided to go over to site 3 and
see what was going on over there. As I was driving over, I thought to
myself, "it's only 9:30 and if this was over right now, I have already
had the greatest time, and the contest hasn't even started yet. At site
3 it was almost a repeat of greetings and after a settling down period I
started to watch some practice flights. Jim Woodward showed that his
efforts over the last year were not wasted as his flying was top
notch.Jim decided that his electric was not giving him the best
opportunity for the scores he felt he was capable of so after a couple
of days with the electric he made the switch to glow and felt that he
did indeed improve his standings.</P>
<P>At one point, I was sitting out under the judges sunshade during a
practice session observing the flyers executing their sequences and who
pulls up a chair and begins to chat , but Jason. Now I have to tell you
that Jason really didn't know me from Adam and yet he was the most
affable friendly guy you could ever hope to meet. I teased the daylights
out of him about getting a haircut and tried a whole bunch of stuff to
rattle his cage and he would just come back with a quick quip and put
you totally at ease. What a wonderful kid !!!!!!!!!! I love'im (and no,
that didn't influence my scores)</P>
<P>All the old stand-bys were there to keep everything running smoothly.
Bobby Stout, John and Bill, Jerry P., line chiefs that I didn't know,
but everybody did a teriffic job of making it a well run event.</P>
<P>I met some neat new guys on site 4. There was a fellow flying a Nat
Penton Voodoo Express ( I think his name was Lewis). Another kid flying
an Adrenaline named Paul Futey. It was great to see again Carl Zavalney,
and Keith Black and it's impossible to remember everybody, but like I
said, you really feel that this is a special experience.</P>
<P>Monday morning I got into my trusty chair behind the flight line and
did some P07 scoring to try to sharpen up my judging skills in
preparation for the real serious stuff. I Scored the guys that I thought
would be in the thick of it at the end on site one, first round. One
individual that impressed me was Chad Northeast.Chad was flying an
airplane called a Twister that I think is a Synergy derivitive powered
by a Plettenberg electric and it was balletic. The plane flew, what
appeared to me, to fly slower than anybody else's electric and Chad was
quite precise in his execution. I let him know that I thought he was
doing well after his flight. I discovered later when I checked my
numbers that his scores were a little lower than most of the top guys,
but there's something about his presentation that keeps you rivetted.
His is indeed a very pleasant presentation. After that round I went to
site 3 and scored a few guys over there, knowing that at this juncture
in time, all that I was doing was getting a feel for consistancy.</P>
<P>The first 3 days were spent trying to get my head to interpret what
my eyes were seeing, but on the 4th day things really got heated up ( of
course Muncie was it's usual high temp environment as well). I feel that
being away from the competition environment for a year and being a year
older that I'm starting to lose a little of my sharpness and judging
ability as I was concious at times that I was occasionally missing a few
things, but I think the overall relativity of the scores that I arrived
at are still consistant within that envelope.</P>
<P>I found out that my position, 50 feet behind the judges does not
afford me a view of the box constraints and although I scored Troy quite
highly, I was advised later that he had quite a few box violations
because he flew in too close which knocked him out of the
finals.Needless to say, I was saddened to learn of this as he takes the
sport very seriously and I like to see him do well. He had a really nice
airplane and flew it with the skill of the top eschelon pilots. </P>
<P>Since returning home I have been quite busy so haven't had time to
get to my scoring etchings till now. Seeing as Vicente was kind enough
to send us Northerners a good dose of Kansas weather (it's 100 degrees
here today) I have been quarantined to the indoors with a little extra
time so I thought I would pull out my score sheets and run the numbers
in order to see how I stacked up against the official results.</P>
<P></P>
<P>This number thing is a real revelation. It seems to indicate trends
and weaknesses and consistancy of each individual. Sometimes as you
begin to tabulate the results it can get pretty scary when there are
only 5 points separating the first 4 guys you've totalled. I felt,
before I left for the Nats this year, that it was probably going to be a
tight race, with Sean and Jason in attendance and was looking forward to
the outcome with great anticipation.</P>
<P>Last year I felt that Chip flew poorly and I was surprised to hear
that he had done well at the Worlds. Well I have to tell you that this
year he vindicated himself on my scorecard.He seems to have the ability
to do better when the pressure is greatest and really comes through.</P>
<P>The day of the finals was a nightmare !!!!!!!!!!! The day started out
overcast, but not excessively windy, so the first round of F07 presented
no more problems than anticipated and everyone flew O.K.</P>
<P>Next came the first unknown and you begin to see in the scores areas
of weaknesses and strengths in the different individuals. Some
individuals displayed tremendous consistancy no matter what was thrown
at them with their scores staying within close proximities (Chad, Chip,
Jay, QQ). It's probably unfair to some individuals to rate them in
exactly this way due to rthe extreme weather that blew in for the last
couple of rounds.This contest may have had a totally different outcome
without the extremes of weather that these poor souls had to tolerate.
In the final round, Dave L and Don were required to fly in winds that
were just under the threshold (40mph) and it hadn't let up very much
when Chip flew last and almost won the round on my scorecard.</P>
<P>Please remember, these are only MY reflections, and there is no way
to verify my qualifications for my conclusions or even indicate that I
know what I'm talking about, however, what is certainly true is that
these eight individuals flew very difficult sequences in a manner that
was exemplary and with extremely closely matched performances. This was
tight flying my friends !!!!!!!!</P>
<P>Here's what I have:</P>
<P></P>
<P>Andrew, F-07-1 = 1000, F-07-2 = 1000, Unk -1 = 937, Unk-2 = 942 Total
= 3879</P>
<P>Chad, F-07-1 = 895, F-07-2 = 894, Unk - 1 = 895, Unk-2 = 911 Total =
3595</P>
<P>Chip, F-07-1 = 964, F-07-2 = 971, Unk - 1 = 989, Unk -2 = 997 Total =
3921<BR></P>
<P>Dave L F-07-1 = 905, F-07-2 = 946, Unk - 1 = 959, Unk -2 = 903 Total
= 3713</P>
<P>Don F-07-1 = 965, F-07-2 = 954, Unk - 1 =1000, Unk -2 = 923 Total =
3842</P>
<P>Jay F-07-1 = 998, F-07-2 = 961, Unk - 1 = 989, Unk -2 = 1000 Total =
3948</P>
<P>Sean F-07-1 = 960, F-07-2 = 984, Unk - 1 = 978, Unk - 2 = 879 Total =
3801</P>
<P>QQ F-07-1 = 959, F-07-2 = 958, Unk - 1 = 987, Unk - 2 = 942 Total =
3846</P>
<P>My numbers indicate an order of finish as follows: 1st = Jay, 2nd =
Chip, 3rd = Andrew, 4th = QQ, 5th = Don, 6th = Sean, 7th = Dave L., 8th
= Chad .</P>
<P>I had no idea what these numbers were going to show until today and
am as surprised as anybody. I think Chad's one point consistancy over
the first three rounds astounding. Chip worked at keeping his scores up
every round to win a well deserved second. Andrew, make yourself up an
unknown sequence every week and work on unfamiliar stuff. It's obvious
you nail everything you get to practice (you surprised me). Don was
unfairly sentenced in the final round. Just wait 'til next year.</P>
<P>Great work you guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!</P>
<P>Georgie</P></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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