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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=EmailStyle20><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Orland has lubed his twice now with it and it has
still had a sheen to the gears upon opening—but no grease to be found.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I only have about twenty flights on
mine in the Temptation—but had eighty on it the first round when I didn’t know
any better and had some bad info on maint. of these critters.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I had about 30 flights on the Impact
and needed to do some trim mods on it—so I greased it then but haven’t flown it
again as I only have 2 sets of working batteries and don’t want to run them in
100 degree plus heat if I don’t have to as they don’t cool down enough to get
them re-charged in a timely manner.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>I’m working on a couple more sets—but not sure just where they are
coming from yet…<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The grease really
quieted the gear sets down in both Orland’s and my airplanes—but I’m afraid
mine may have gone a little too long and is a tiny bit loose and a smidge
louder.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I’ll be interested to see
how the Impact sounds now since it wasn’t abused (as much).<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I happened to try some of this stuff on
sliding bolt locks and door latches and it works well (creates a tough film I
think)—It’ll be interesting to see how it does in the cold.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>According to the directions, you only
use about as much as your little finger nail—a tube ought to be good for about
a thousand relubes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=EmailStyle20><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=EmailStyle20><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The process only took about an hour and 15 mins. the first
time and about a half hour the second.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>I screwed up the first time and un-did the rear mount—forgetting the motor
would just slide out after un-bolting the front four—duh.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>If you don’t have a strap wrench, you
can take a hose clamp, clamp it on the gear box portion, tighten, then clamp
the screw portion of the clamp in a vise—then use a grippy rubber jar opener
helper (don’t let the spousal unit know what you are up to) on the motor to
un-screw after loosening the two set screws that may or may not be tight.<span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Some evidently were Loctited more than
others.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The first one I was able
to just twist it and it unscrewed by hand—the second was a bit more difficult--I
needed help and didn’t have a strap wrench handy. <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>J.Oddino<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 19, 2006
5:29 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Carbon fiber shortage</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>--> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Getting
back to R/C, did you get any reports on the Shell lube in the Hacker C
50s? I sent some to Dave Snow and just looking at it, he thought it was
on the thick side, but that maybe good. I'm at 44 flights so it is about
that time.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Jim O</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>
<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:richard.s@allied-callaway.com"
title="richard.s@allied-callaway.com">Richard Strickland</a> </span></font></div>
<font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;font-weight:
bold'>
<div DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial">To:</span></font></b><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</a> </span></font></div>
<font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;font-weight:
bold'>
<div DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent:</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:55 PM</div>
</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;font-weight:
bold'>
<div DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject:</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Carbon fiber
shortage</div>
</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
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DEFANGED_STYLE="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><span class=emailstyle19><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Drat-the Yukon spends most of its time at around
712' MSL (10" AGL).<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Won't
do us much good....<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>RS<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></span></b>
<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>J.Oddino<br>
<b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></span></b>
Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:55 PM<br>
<b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></span></b>
NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></span></b>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Carbon fiber shortage</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span
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DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>There was a program on
Nova or one of those science things that talked about it. Some Brit did a
study for Israel back in the early 50s to measure the heat load so they could
design their irrigation system. For some reason he went back and did it
again within the last few years. He found that there was something like
20% less heat from the sun but no one was interested because everyone knows we
have global warming. Then some guys in Australia who measure the rate of
evaporization got together with him and their data correlated very well.
They then showed pictures from space of the contrails up and down the Western
states and explained how the water droplets formed on the jet soot and
reflected the sunlight. A very interesting program. Sounds like we
need more high altitude pollution to counter global warming.</span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
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<div DEFANGED_STYLE="font-color: black">From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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<a href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com" title="bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</a> </span></span></font></div>
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<div DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial">To:</span></font></b><font color=black><span
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href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> </span></span></font></div>
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<div DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent:</span></font></b><font
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Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:15 AM</div>
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<div DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject:</span></font></b><font
color=black><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"><span style='color:black'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Carbon fiber shortage</div>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Actually, I
do remember reading about the effects of high-altitude jet exhaust in an
article about 4 years ago. Seems that after 9-11, someone did a study. It was
due to an extremely rare moment in history, when no airplanes were allowed to
fly, at least in the Con US. According the the report I read, the effect was
measureable.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Richard Strickland
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hot day-supposed to be 104 F today in KC.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>Has anyone done a study on how much fuel gets injected into
the upper atmosphere by jets? <span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I
know there are PIPELINE(S!) of the stuff going from the Gulf coast to the East
coast and elsewhere.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>You
certainly hear about pollution from any kind of ground vehicle-but absolutely
nuthin' about airline, GA, and military transport.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>It would seem that a little spread out in the upper
atmosphere would have a great deal more effect than a lot spread closer to the
ground.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I AM feeling a
little guilty driving a hog, however.<span DEFANGED_STYLE="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>I'm thinking 'sacred cow' information suppression-we might have to truly
get our act together on high-speed mass transit.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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Message-----<br>
<span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold"><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></span></b></span>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></span></b>Gray E Fowler<br>
<span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold"><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></span></b></span> Wednesday,
July 19, 2006 8:12 AM<br>
<span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold"><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></span></b></span> NSRCA Mailing
List<br>
<span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><b><span DEFANGED_STYLE="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold"><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></span></b></span> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Carbon fiber shortage</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'></span>Tom</span></span><span
DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"></font><font color=black><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR:
black"><span style='color:black'> <br>
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</span></span></font></span><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Just because those
"Road Warrior" movies were film in Australia does not mean they are
true! Besides, I love $3/gallon gasoline.</span><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"></font><font
color=black><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"><span style='color:black'> <br>
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</span></span></font></span><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>1. People use less</span><span
DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"></font><font color=black><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR:
black"><span style='color:black'> <br>
</span></span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>2. Alternatives become
cost effective</span></span><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"></font><font
color=black><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"><span style='color:black'> <br>
</span></span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>3. Ethanol will replace
Gasoline and we can save oil to make CF!</span></span><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"></font><font
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</span></span></font></span><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Gray</span><span
DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"></font><font color=black><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR:
black"><span style='color:black'> <br>
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</span></span></font><font color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>Hey Gray,</span></span><span
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black"><span style='color:black'> <br>
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</span></span></font></span><font color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>I Think the A380 cant get to Oz
fast enough. I think on these long haul flight routes it will be a good
thing-HOWEVER-personally I'm not too keen to get on anything made by Airbus. I
shudder every time I have to get on one.They seem to have a habit of falling
out of the sky. Isn't there some kind of joke amongst Airbus pilots? Something
along the lines of-'why did it do that?'</span><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"></font><font
color=black><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"><span style='color:black'> <br>
<br>
</span></span></font></span><font color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>I believe Australia is also
involved with the JSF. Down here, there has been some political debate
over it lately, along the lines of, overpriced, behind schedule and yesterdays
technology.....all good stuff really, cause when we run out of oil shortly, no
one will be able to afford air travel or fill their car with gasoline. I doubt
the JSF will be much good to anyone either sitting on the tarmac ( unless its
powered by anti-matter and Dilithium crystals <VBG>)</span><span
DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"></font><font color=black><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR:
black"><span style='color:black'> <br>
<br>
</span></span></font></span><font color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>I think our dependence on the
middle east because of its oil will affect us all more than we think. Isn't
carbon fibre manufacture dependant on oil as well? How do they heat those
furnaces?</span><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'> <br>
<br>
</span></span></font><font color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>Luckily most of my modelling
endeavours will remain in mostly balsa, and maybe the remaining rolls of
carbon in my workshop may become worthwhile 'stock' <G> AND
even better, maybe my unbuilt PL kits will appreciate in 'value' after
all........hehehehehehehe...I wished ..sigh.</span><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR:
black"></font><font color=black><span DEFANGED_STYLE="COLOR: black"><span
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</span></span></font><font color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>Tom</span></span><span
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<br>
Gray Fowler<br>
Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<br>
Radome and Composites Engineering<br>
Raytheon</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'> </span></font><font
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