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<DIV><SPAN class=597440017-19072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Hi
Colin,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=597440017-19072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I can't think
of any drawbacks, and its one big advantage over the full computer carb is that
the mixture control arm has virtually no effect at idle, so engine shake will
not bugger your idle mixture.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=597440017-19072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>The Tower
part number is LXCN51 and it'll cost about 30 bucks. i don't know how popular it
is, but it sure works for me and I've writtenm about it in FM several times,
over the years.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=597440017-19072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>best of
luck,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=597440017-19072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>colin
chariandy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Mixture control
needle<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Is the mixture control needle solution a popular one? Any
drawbacks?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Colin.<BR><BR><B><I>Dean Pappas <d.pappas@kodeos.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=160070821-18072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Hi again
Col.inn,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=160070821-18072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>It's not
a fancy carb, just the old O.S. mixture control needle.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=160070821-18072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I'll
spend a few minutes later and find the Tower part #.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=160070821-18072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </DIV>
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face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>colin
chariandy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Break-in
procedure for OS140<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>I like the mixture control carb idea but where can I get one? I
thought they were no longer available?</DIV>
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<DIV>Colin.<BR><BR><B><I>Dean Pappas <d.pappas@kodeos.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>Hello
Colin,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>Yes, the richer
idle is necessary to get the engine to settle into a good brake. Your
problem is really with the midrange, and tweaking the idle is a
band-aid.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>You have three ways
to attack, that I can think of.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>1) Add compression.
It will help keep the fire lit in the middle. If pinging in the
vertical up lines occurs, then abandon this approach
quickly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>2) Hotter plug if
possible.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>3) Add an OS
mixture control needle valve and drive it with a servo and a curve mix
from the throttle. The mix is 0% at both top and
bottom,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>and whatever
necessary in the middle.I found that working the curve so that the
engine is just slightly rich of peak at the middle points works
well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>My highly
compressed two-plug OS has the mixture <EM>richened</EM> in the middle,
compared to the metering curve in the carb.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>Hope this
helps,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT
face=Arial>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </DIV>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>rcmaster199@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:15
PM<BR><B>To:</B> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Break-in procedure for
OS140<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Texans, in my experience, are brilliant. They have proven, time
and again, Einstein's theory of relativity....by simply doing what
comes naturally. Go figure!! (vbg)</DIV>
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<DIV>Matt</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV> <BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
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nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Sent: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:03
AM<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Break-in procedure for
OS140<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Amir,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>It may APPEAR that we move a little slower
here.. in... Texas... but it just that we have SO much
more territory to cover that it just seems like we move slower.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be carefull carpets move slower here due to all
the Longhorn droppings. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Wayno</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=cchariandy@yahoo.ca
href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('cchariandy@yahoo.ca');">colin
chariandy</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 17, 2006
2:32 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Break-in procedure for OS140</DIV>
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<DIV>That big a prop seems unbelievable! How is the noise,
speed and acceleration?How critical is the set-up conditions ,
temperature , humidity etc? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I do have one and may give it a try.<BR><BR><B><I>WAYNE <<A
href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('wgalligan@goodsonacura.com');">wgalligan@goodsonacura.com</A>></I></B>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Yes to lengthening the pipe and then try to
trichen it a little and see what happens. I had mine at
about 26.5 inches from the plug with and Aeroslave pipe, low end
at about 1'oclock or a little less and turning a 19x10
2-b c.f Mejlik prop. Cool Power 15% turning about
7600 rpm.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>So electric like it was nice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Wayne Galligan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=cchariandy@yahoo.ca
href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('cchariandy@yahoo.ca');">colin
chariandy</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 17, 2006
1:06 PM</DIV>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Break-in procedure for OS140</DIV>
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<DIV>I've got a couple gallons through the new engine and I
think it's now properly broken in. The mid-range got a bit
rich and clears abrutply with a jump in rpm. I leaned the low
end a little (from 12 to 1 o'clock position) and the downline
braking disappeared. Speed control with this set-up is
difficult. With the low end a bit rich speed is inconsistent on
the horizontal lines but downlines are good. With the low end a
bit lean downlines are too fast but the horizontal lines are
good. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'm at 26.25" from the plug and turning the 15x11x4 at
8100rpm. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Is there any benift to lengthening the pipe further? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Colin.<BR><BR><B><I>Ron Lockhart
<ronlock@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>My Aeroslave set up on OS 140 is maybe
1/2 inch longer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Works nice, tachs 7,800 on ground
on 15.75 x 10 3b.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Idle setting is very lean- I
keep leaning it till it becomes hard to start, then richen a
bit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Ron Lockhart</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=wgalligan@goodsonacura.com
href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('wgalligan@goodsonacura.com');">Wayne
Galligan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 13,
2006 5:13 PM</DIV>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Break-in procedure for OS140</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Colin,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>What is the length of you setup from
the plug to the baffle inside? If I remember right the
baflle is 15" from the inlet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Mine is at 26" from the plug and I
finaLy was able to get a real good down line braking and
richen the low end out. The Aeroslave pipe will
make a ton of power in a shorter length but the engine
gets peaky and will come on the pipe or really
unload. One thing about this pipe. If it
is burbly rich in the midrange the length is too
short.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Wayne Galligan</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=cchariandy@yahoo.ca
href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('cchariandy@yahoo.ca');">colin
chariandy</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June
13, 2006 11:40 AM</DIV>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Break-in procedure for OS140</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Worked like a charm!!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The engine ran flawlessly on the first flight after
the run-in. I'm using the Aeroslave pipe and 15.5x12 4
blade. I'm about 1 3/4 out with the high end and parallel
with the cylinder for the low end screw. All seems OK....
good/slightly rich top end, reliable idle, rich in the
middle but accelerates with no problem, good downline
braking. When should I start moving the low end screw and
where will the final position be ...typically?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Colin.<BR><BR><B><I>Mike Hester
<kerlock@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Correction: Bottom end
needle.....1/16 of a turn, not 1/8. The bottom end screw
is VERY sensitive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=kerlock@comcast.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday,
June 06, 2006 11:42 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Break-in procedure for OS140</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I am going to write a full "care
and feeding" article for the OS 140 for the July
K-Factor, but here's a good start.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>First, set your low end screw
parallel to the cylinder. 12 o'clock, straight up and
down. leave it there for the duration of the break
in.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Use an APC 17x10N prop. use an
OS F plug.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>back the high end needle out 2
full turns. if you plane has a chin cowl, remove it.
This engine gets hot for the first run or 2 on the
ground.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Crank the engine with a very
high idle. Remove the igniter and then advance the
throttle to full power after about a minute. It should
be spitting rich.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Turn the high end needle until
it gets some good RPM but still very rich. You should
be putting out some serious smoke. let it run this way
for about 5 minutes, no more.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Shut the engine off, and let it
cool for about 1/2 hour. the more, the
better.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Fill the tank, crank it again,
run it to full. This time go in on the needle about 2
clicks and use that for the reference. About every
30-45 seconds, lean it until it goes to max RPM, and
not ANY further. Let it run this way for about 5
seconds, and richen it back up. Cycle it this way for
about 7 minutes. Shut down the engine, let it cool
again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Crank the 3rd time, and run it
at the same setting for about 2 minutes. Now lean it a
couple of more clicks, and it should be still putting
out some serious smoke, but a little closer to full.
Step back, and let it run wide open for a minute, then
begin throttling it back and forth every minute or so.
Run the tank out like this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>put it together and go fly it.
Don't touch the needle. When you get to the bottom of
the 1st gallon, go in with the needle ONE click every
flight until you get max power. When your low end
changes, set the low end (always more lean, but not a
whole lot. When you play with that bottom end, a
little goes a long way. Like 1/8 of a turn or
so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>There are a lot of diffferent
ways to do it; some people just set it rich and fly.
This way works every time though, and the engines last
longer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>have fun,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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chariandy</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday,
June 06, 2006 10:55 AM</DIV>
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