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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Probably all the Li-Po packs that are overheated
and generators to feed them making extra heat... <tic> </FONT></DIV>
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Del <BR> nsrca -
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<A title=khoard@gmail.com href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">Keith Hoard</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:00
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Carbon
fiber shortage</DIV>
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<DIV>Maybe that is why it's so hot at the Nats this year? There
aren't as many glow engines leaving contrails. . . </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 7/19/06, <B
class=gmail_sendername>J.Oddino</B> <<A
href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com">joddino@socal.rr.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There was a program on Nova or one of those
science things that talked about it. Some Brit did a study for Israel
back in the early 50s to measure the heat load so they could design their
irrigation system. For some reason he went back and did it again
within the last few years. He found that there was something like 20%
less heat from the sun but no one was interested because everyone knows we
have global warming. Then some guys in Australia who measure the rate
of evaporization got together with him and their data correlated very
well. They then showed pictures from space of the contrails up and
down the Western states and explained how the water droplets formed on the
jet soot and reflected the sunlight. A very interesting program.
Sounds like we need more high altitude pollution to counter global warming.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim O</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title="bob@toprudder.com (mailto:bob@toprudder.com)"
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:15
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Carbon fiber shortage</DIV>
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<DIV>Actually, I do remember reading about the effects of high-altitude
jet exhaust in an article about 4 years ago. Seems that after 9-11,
someone did a study. It was due to an extremely rare moment in history,
when no airplanes were allowed to fly, at least in the Con US. According
the the report I read, the effect was measureable. <BR> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><B><I>Richard Strickland <<A
title=mailto:richard.s@allied-callaway.com
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A thought on a
hot day—supposed to be 104 F today in KC.<SPAN> </SPAN>Has anyone
done a study on how much fuel gets injected into the upper atmosphere by
jets? <SPAN> </SPAN>I know there are PIPELINE(S!) of the
stuff going from the Gulf coast to the East coast and
elsewhere.<SPAN> </SPAN>You certainly hear about pollution from
any kind of ground vehicle—but absolutely nuthin' about airline, GA, and
military transport. <SPAN> </SPAN>It would seem that a little
spread out in the upper atmosphere would have a great deal more effect
than a lot spread closer to the ground.<SPAN> </SPAN>I AM feeling
a little guilty driving a hog, however.<SPAN> </SPAN>I'm thinking
'sacred cow' information suppression—we might have to truly get our act
together on high-speed mass transit.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Off
soapbox--wish I was at the NATS,</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Richard</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
title=mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org </A>[mailto:<A
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gray E
Fowler<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday,
July 19, 2006 8:12 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing List <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Carbon fiber shortage</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=sans-serif color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Tom</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=sans-serif color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Just
because those "Road Warrior" movies were film in Australia does not mean
they are true! Besides, I love $3/gallon gasoline.
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">1. People
use less</SPAN> </FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">2.
Alternatives become cost effective </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">3.
Ethanol will replace Gasoline and we can save oil to make CF!
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Gray</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black> <SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">Hey
Gray,</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black">
<BR> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">I Think the A380 cant get to Oz fast enough. I think
on these long haul flight routes it will be a good
thing-HOWEVER-personally I'm not too keen to get on anything made by
Airbus. I shudder every time I have to get on one.They seem to have a
habit of falling out of the sky. Isn't there some kind of joke amongst
Airbus pilots? Something along the lines of-'why did it do
that?'</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black">
<BR> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">I believe Australia is also involved with the JSF.
Down here, there has been some political debate over it lately,
along the lines of, overpriced, behind schedule and yesterdays
technology.....all good stuff really, cause when we run out of oil
shortly, no one will be able to afford air travel or fill their car with
gasoline. I doubt the JSF will be much good to anyone either sitting on
the tarmac ( unless its powered by anti-matter and Dilithium crystals
<VBG>) </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">I think our
dependence on the middle east because of its oil will affect us all more
than we think. Isn't carbon fibre manufacture dependant on oil as well?
How do they heat those furnaces? </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue><SPAN style="COLOR: blue">Luckily most
of my modelling endeavours will remain in mostly balsa, and maybe
the remaining rolls of carbon in my workshop may become worthwhile
'stock' <G> AND even better, maybe my unbuilt PL kits will
appreciate in 'value' after all........hehehehehehehe...I wished ..sigh.
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR>
<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">Tom</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR><BR><BR>Gray
Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radome and Composites
Engineering <BR>Raytheon</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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