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<DIV><SPAN class=160070821-18072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Hi again
Col.inn,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=160070821-18072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>It's not a
fancy carb, just the old O.S. mixture control needle.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=160070821-18072006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>I'll spend a
few minutes later and find the Tower part #.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=160070821-18072006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>colin
chariandy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Break-in procedure for
OS140<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>I like the mixture control carb idea but where can I get one? I thought
they were no longer available?</DIV>
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<DIV>Colin.<BR><BR><B><I>Dean Pappas <d.pappas@kodeos.com></I></B>
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<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>Hello
Colin,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>Yes, the richer idle is
necessary to get the engine to settle into a good brake. Your problem is
really with the midrange, and tweaking the idle is a
band-aid.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>You have three ways to
attack, that I can think of.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>1) Add compression. It
will help keep the fire lit in the middle. If pinging in the vertical
up lines occurs, then abandon this approach quickly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>2) Hotter plug if
possible.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>3) Add an OS mixture
control needle valve and drive it with a servo and a curve mix from the
throttle. The mix is 0% at both top and bottom,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>and whatever necessary
in the middle.I found that working the curve so that the engine is just
slightly rich of peak at the middle points works well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>My highly compressed
two-plug OS has the mixture <EM>richened</EM> in the middle, compared to the
metering curve in the carb.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT face=Arial>Hope this
helps,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=461293119-18072006><FONT
face=Arial>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>Texans, in my experience, are brilliant. They have proven, time and
again, Einstein's theory of relativity....by simply doing what comes
naturally. Go figure!! (vbg)</DIV>
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<DIV>Matt</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Amir,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>It may APPEAR that we move a little slower here..
in... Texas... but it just that we have SO much more territory
to cover that it just seems like we move slower. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Be carefull carpets move slower here due to all the
Longhorn droppings. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Wayno</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=cchariandy@yahoo.ca
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chariandy</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 17, 2006 2:32
PM</DIV>
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Break-in procedure for OS140</DIV>
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<DIV>That big a prop seems unbelievable! How is the noise,
speed and acceleration?How critical is the set-up conditions ,
temperature , humidity etc? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I do have one and may give it a try.<BR><BR><B><I>WAYNE <<A
href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('wgalligan@goodsonacura.com');">wgalligan@goodsonacura.com</A>></I></B>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Yes to lengthening the pipe and then try to
trichen it a little and see what happens. I had mine at about
26.5 inches from the plug with and Aeroslave pipe, low end at about
1'oclock or a little less and turning a 19x10 2-b c.f Mejlik
prop. Cool Power 15% turning about 7600 rpm.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>So electric like it was nice.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Wayne Galligan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=cchariandy@yahoo.ca
href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('cchariandy@yahoo.ca');">colin
chariandy</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 17, 2006
1:06 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Break-in procedure for OS140</DIV>
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<DIV>I've got a couple gallons through the new engine and I
think it's now properly broken in. The mid-range got a bit rich
and clears abrutply with a jump in rpm. I leaned the low end a
little (from 12 to 1 o'clock position) and the downline braking
disappeared. Speed control with this set-up is difficult. With the
low end a bit rich speed is inconsistent on the horizontal lines but
downlines are good. With the low end a bit lean downlines are too
fast but the horizontal lines are good. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'm at 26.25" from the plug and turning the 15x11x4 at 8100rpm.
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Is there any benift to lengthening the pipe further? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Colin.<BR><BR><B><I>Ron Lockhart
<ronlock@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>My Aeroslave set up on OS 140 is maybe 1/2
inch longer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Works nice, tachs 7,800 on ground on
15.75 x 10 3b.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Idle setting is very lean- I
keep leaning it till it becomes hard to start, then richen a
bit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Ron Lockhart</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=wgalligan@goodsonacura.com
href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('wgalligan@goodsonacura.com');">Wayne
Galligan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 13,
2006 5:13 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Colin,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>What is the length of you setup from the
plug to the baffle inside? If I remember right the baflle
is 15" from the inlet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Mine is at 26" from the plug and I finaLy
was able to get a real good down line braking and richen the low
end out. The Aeroslave pipe will make a ton of power
in a shorter length but the engine gets peaky and will come
on the pipe or really unload. One thing about this
pipe. If it is burbly rich in the midrange the length is
too short.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Wayne Galligan</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=cchariandy@yahoo.ca
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chariandy</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 13,
2006 11:40 AM</DIV>
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<DIV>Worked like a charm!!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The engine ran flawlessly on the first flight after the
run-in. I'm using the Aeroslave pipe and 15.5x12 4 blade. I'm
about 1 3/4 out with the high end and parallel with the
cylinder for the low end screw. All seems OK.... good/slightly
rich top end, reliable idle, rich in the middle
but accelerates with no problem, good downline braking.
When should I start moving the low end screw and where will
the final position be ...typically?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Colin.<BR><BR><B><I>Mike Hester
<kerlock@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Correction: Bottom end needle.....1/16
of a turn, not 1/8. The bottom end screw is VERY
sensitive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June
06, 2006 11:42 AM</DIV>
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[NSRCA-discussion] Break-in procedure for OS140</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I am going to write a full "care and
feeding" article for the OS 140 for the July K-Factor, but
here's a good start.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>First, set your low end screw
parallel to the cylinder. 12 o'clock, straight up and
down. leave it there for the duration of the break
in.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Use an APC 17x10N prop. use an OS F
plug.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>back the high end needle out 2 full
turns. if you plane has a chin cowl, remove it. This
engine gets hot for the first run or 2 on the
ground.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Crank the engine with a very high
idle. Remove the igniter and then advance the throttle to
full power after about a minute. It should be spitting
rich.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Turn the high end needle until it
gets some good RPM but still very rich. You should be
putting out some serious smoke. let it run this way for
about 5 minutes, no more.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Shut the engine off, and let it cool
for about 1/2 hour. the more, the better.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Fill the tank, crank it again, run
it to full. This time go in on the needle about 2 clicks
and use that for the reference. About every 30-45 seconds,
lean it until it goes to max RPM, and not ANY further. Let
it run this way for about 5 seconds, and richen it back
up. Cycle it this way for about 7 minutes. Shut down the
engine, let it cool again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Crank the 3rd time, and run it at
the same setting for about 2 minutes. Now lean it a couple
of more clicks, and it should be still putting out some
serious smoke, but a little closer to full. Step back, and
let it run wide open for a minute, then begin throttling
it back and forth every minute or so. Run the tank out
like this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>put it together and go fly it. Don't
touch the needle. When you get to the bottom of the 1st
gallon, go in with the needle ONE click every flight until
you get max power. When your low end changes, set the low
end (always more lean, but not a whole lot. When you play
with that bottom end, a little goes a long way. Like 1/8
of a turn or so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>There are a lot of diffferent ways
to do it; some people just set it rich and fly. This way
works every time though, and the engines last
longer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>have fun,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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06, 2006 10:55 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Just got a new OS140. I have'nt broken in one for 5
years...what's the best/current practice for
break-in?</DIV>
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<DIV>Colin.</DIV>
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