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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your past has come back to remind you of the good
flights you had with the nitro gulping engines of the past.You're not the only
electric person that has this problem. They just don't discuss
it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim Ivey</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:51
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] paint(and
E exhaust)</DIV>
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of electric battery exhaust—and I know you guys are going to think I’ve lost
it—very occasionally I could swear I’ve seen a bit of some kind of trailing
‘exhaust’ looking vapor on my electrics.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Has anyone else experienced that (and will admit it) or have I just
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style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>again.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B><SPAN
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List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] paint</SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=sans-serif color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">I am unaware of
Imron properties. Clear coat is a protection for some systems that are not
fuel proof and for pigmented car systems that absolutely require a reactive
clear coat. I do not trust that a paint shop person is aware of the
nitromethane chemical resistance of Imron. Pehaps someone on this list does
know.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black">
<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Single stage
paints, such as PPG DBU etc are a non reactive carrier resin pigmented with a
color and fillers. They basically "dry" or evaporate a solvent and what is
left behind is the non reacted resin and color. Clearcoats are reactive, which
is a thermosetting polymer-non reversable. Single stage paints dry and then
can be removed with a slovent wipe, or fuel on your plane.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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face=sans-serif color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">But! it is
important tp point out that single stage paints are not affected by electric
battery exhaust, except for the occasional unbalanced cell
act.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black">
<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif color=black size=2><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am getting ready to
spray imron. I have never painted anything. I told the paint shop
what I was using it for and they said I didn’t need a clear and I didn’t get
any reducer. What type of reducer and how much should I use for this
type of paint. Also why do you use clear over a single stage paint.
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gray E Fowler<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:17
AM<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing
List<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] paint</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>Robert</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=sans-serif color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>Humidity is
not a problem, dew point is. Since it is warm now in most places this should
not be a problem. The amount of reducer called out by the paint
manufacturer has two purposes, </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>1. Reduce
the viscosity so a standard paint gun can atomize</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>2. Only
reduce the viscosity barely enough as to meet EPA volatile organic emmision
requirements </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>The PPG
"reducer" amounts allow the car painting guy to seriously "lay it on" with out
fear of runs or overspray. Unfortunately laying it on an airplane increases
weight. A thicker clear coat will not really protect your plane better than a
thinner coat, so it is just weight. Adding more reducer (its really a blend of
different solvents) will allow for thinner coats, less overspray, but
can increase runs. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>The reducer
like I mentioned is a blend of solvents, and all of this 100% evaporates and
has nothing to do with the urethane chemical reaction that cures the
clearcoat. You can add as much reducer as you want without reprisal...except
from the EPA, which I doubt will go after an individual pattern guy...but I
could be wrong. So once you are comfortable with increasing your local
pollution level...add that 200% reducer!!!</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray
Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radome and Composites
Engineering<BR>Raytheon</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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How much humidity is to humid to <BR>paint?<BR><BR>I've been reading
where the jet guys are reducing they're clear coat to a <BR>200% ratio.
They think it's great. Anybody tried this?
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