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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>No complaint on the quality of the stuff. Our
airplanes (full size air carrier Part 135) take quite a beating, both in the air
and on the ground, and Imron was the best there was, at the time. On
my El Camino, after many years, the stuff started curling up around
the edges, and when it did, adhesion was so good that it peeled off the
factory paint, primer, etc. down to bare metal. IMHO, that's real
adhesion. But, again, (my opinion only,) I wouldn't use it; I prefer
something with less risk potential.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bill Glaze</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=schale@optonline.net href="mailto:schale@optonline.net">Stuart
Chale</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:03
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
paint</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You have obviously
received several warnings, appropriately so, from this list. Imron
should not be the first paint that you spray if you have never sprayed
before. (I wouldn’t spray it all without proper respiratory
protection) There are safer paints to apply with similar
qualities. The warnings that you have been given are correct.
Imron gives off more polyisocyanates than most other paints. These are
dangerous and can cause respiratory trouble. I am an ER doc and have
seen it several times most often from “hobby” type
painters.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Imron when sprayed
under safe conditions is an excellent paint though. It is highly
fuel proof and has an excellent gloss.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Good luck with your
choice,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Stuart
Chale</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Tim<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:39
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'NSRCA Mailing
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[NSRCA-discussion] paint</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am getting ready to
spray imron. I have never painted anything. I told the paint shop
what I was using it for and they said I didn’t need a clear and I didn’t get
any reducer. What type of reducer and how much should I use for this
type of paint. Also why do you use clear over a single stage
paint. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gray E Fowler<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:17
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing
List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] paint</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Robert</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Humidity
is not a problem, dew point is. Since it is warm now in most places this
should not be a problem. The amount of reducer called out by the paint
manufacturer has two purposes, </SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1. Reduce the
viscosity so a standard paint gun can atomize</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2. Only
reduce the viscosity barely enough as to meet EPA volatile organic emmision
requirements </SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The PPG "reducer" amounts allow
the car painting guy to seriously "lay it on" with out fear of runs or
overspray. Unfortunately laying it on an airplane increases weight. A thicker
clear coat will not really protect your plane better than a thinner coat, so
it is just weight. Adding more reducer (its really a blend of different
solvents) will allow for thinner coats, less overspray, but can increase
runs. </SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The reducer like I mentioned is a
blend of solvents, and all of this 100% evaporates and has nothing to do with
the urethane chemical reaction that cures the clearcoat. You can add as much
reducer as you want without reprisal...except from the EPA, which I doubt will
go after an individual pattern guy...but I could be wrong. So once you
are comfortable with increasing your local pollution level...add that 200%
reducer!!!</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Senior
Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radome and Composites
Engineering<BR>Raytheon</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
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questions.</SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">Weathers turned to crap around here again. How much
humidity is to humid to </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">paint?</FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">I've
been reading where the jet guys are reducing they're clear coat to a
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">200% ratio. They think it's
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