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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>sa.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=richard.s@allied-callaway.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:51
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] paint(and
E exhaust)</DIV>
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of electric battery exhaust—and I know you guys are going to think I’ve lost
it—very occasionally I could swear I’ve seen a bit of some kind of trailing
‘exhaust’ looking vapor on my electrics.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Has anyone else experienced that (and will admit it) or have I just
lost my mind? <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>again.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B><SPAN
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:14
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[NSRCA-discussion] paint</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Tim</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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face=sans-serif color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">I am unaware of
Imron properties. Clear coat is a protection for some systems that are not
fuel proof and for pigmented car systems that absolutely require a reactive
clear coat. I do not trust that a paint shop person is aware of the
nitromethane chemical resistance of Imron. Pehaps someone on this list does
know.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black">
<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">Single stage
paints, such as PPG DBU etc are a non reactive carrier resin pigmented with a
color and fillers. They basically "dry" or evaporate a solvent and what is
left behind is the non reacted resin and color. Clearcoats are reactive, which
is a thermosetting polymer-non reversable. Single stage paints dry and then
can be removed with a slovent wipe, or fuel on your plane.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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face=sans-serif color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">But! it is
important tp point out that single stage paints are not affected by electric
battery exhaust, except for the occasional unbalanced cell
act.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black">
<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif color=black size=2><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am getting ready to
spray imron. I have never painted anything. I told the paint shop
what I was using it for and they said I didn’t need a clear and I didn’t get
any reducer. What type of reducer and how much should I use for this
type of paint. Also why do you use clear over a single stage paint.
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gray E Fowler<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:17
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[NSRCA-discussion] paint</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>Robert</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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face=sans-serif color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>Humidity is
not a problem, dew point is. Since it is warm now in most places this should
not be a problem. The amount of reducer called out by the paint
manufacturer has two purposes, </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif color=black
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>1. Reduce
the viscosity so a standard paint gun can atomize</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>2. Only
reduce the viscosity barely enough as to meet EPA volatile organic emmision
requirements </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif color=black
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>The PPG
"reducer" amounts allow the car painting guy to seriously "lay it on" with out
fear of runs or overspray. Unfortunately laying it on an airplane increases
weight. A thicker clear coat will not really protect your plane better than a
thinner coat, so it is just weight. Adding more reducer (its really a blend of
different solvents) will allow for thinner coats, less overspray, but
can increase runs. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=sans-serif color=black
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR>The reducer
like I mentioned is a blend of solvents, and all of this 100% evaporates and
has nothing to do with the urethane chemical reaction that cures the
clearcoat. You can add as much reducer as you want without reprisal...except
from the EPA, which I doubt will go after an individual pattern guy...but I
could be wrong. So once you are comfortable with increasing your local
pollution level...add that 200% reducer!!!</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif"><BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray
Fowler<BR>Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Radome and Composites
Engineering<BR>Raytheon</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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How much humidity is to humid to <BR>paint?<BR><BR>I've been reading
where the jet guys are reducing they're clear coat to a <BR>200% ratio.
They think it's great. Anybody tried this?
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