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<DIV>Ya Rc master,</DIV>
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<DIV> After I sent you that email I
refreshed myself on some books. And turns out it will snap both directions. But
(sometimes) it depends on the airplane. And like Nat was saying (the outboard
wing is seeing a huge increase in AOA with the aileron and elevator working
cooperatively. Even though the inboard wing is experiencing lower flow it is
being washed out by the ailerons.</DIV>
<DIV> <BR>And at the stall it is definitely necessary to accept a dumping
of lift. And also the curves on the wing and plus drag. Is a major factor in a
snap roll.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV align=center>Matt</DIV>
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<A title=drykert2@rochester.rr.com href="mailto:drykert2@rochester.rr.com">Del
K. Rykert</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 08, 2006 6:51
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Snaps</DIV>
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<DIV>I will have to disagree with that Matt.. As I can snap my pattern
ship either direction as well as upright or inverted. One may present better
than the other but it will do a true snap. </DIV>
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Del <BR> nsrca -
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<A title=RLIPRIE@centurytel.net href="mailto:RLIPRIE@centurytel.net">R.
LIPRIE</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 08, 2006 4:02
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Snaps</DIV>
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<DIV>Rc Master, I might have an answer for you on how does that wing come
over if all of its lift has been dumped. See usually you do a snap roll the
way the engine torque is pulling. Which is usually to the left so you
usually do a snap roll to the left. That really actually forces
that wing with no lift to come over. Because the torque of the engine is
pulling it.</DIV>
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<DIV align=center>Matt</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 08, 2006 2:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Snaps</DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 7/8/2006 2:09:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, <A
href="mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net">natpenton@centurytel.net</A>
writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Matt</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards. Two comments. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Snap characteristics are independent of
scale. The only thing that changes is the clock ( due to changes in
moments of inertia ). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When the rudder is applied it is the
outboard wing that exceeds the stall AOA and dumps. Actually it is not
much of a lift dump but a huge jump in
drag.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV>Nat true. Moments of inertia are design parameters. So are
several other key parameters that may make or break a model's ability
to perform snaps. That was my point.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I agree in terms of AOA (outboard aileron low) and drag increase but
I am not as sure regards to lift. I know what you are saying though.
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>One question: how does the outboard panel lift over the top if its
lift has been dumped?</DIV>
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