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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gray,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Your words below were my reaction before
flying IMAC. My gut feeling hasn’t changed about it, but on the
other hand, the IMAC equipment and competitors are different and I believe
would have the following take (IMAC folks correct me if I’m off
base): <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Allowing
others to land the plane encourages fathers to bring their younger sons to
the contest and let them compete. There is a higher amount of kids
(young kids) flying IMAC than pattern. However, there is also a
larger kid-factor present when the final placing is announced. Kids
typically score well in IMAC, and place high too.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Knocking
out the gear in an IMAC plane is very real possibility any time you land. One
second of misjudged airspeed or decent, and the gear is coming out with damage
to the fuse. Not to mention potentially ruining a $130+ CF prop.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Repairing
the plane is not in line with the “have-fun” focus of a lot of
the competitors. So a rule is in place that in many minds must allow
for increased participation, less damage to expensive equipment, less ego
damage too. It takes several people to cart off an IMAC plane once
the gear is out. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>$$$
A lot of folks are flying planes 2 – 4 times more expensive than a
pattern plane. There is more overall concern related to equipment
health. Planes are twice as big, but 5 times easier to damage on
landing than a pattern plane. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Note:
A lot of the pattern landings I’ve seen would definitely (seriously)
damage an IMAC plane. But the pattern pilot can bounce 3-5
times and it like nothing happened to the plane (lucky for us). <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Again, I’m all for scoring landings
in pattern. It sounds like from Ed’s post there is a class limit in
IMAC for which classes allow alternate lander(s). I’m just offering
a different perspective from the IMAC experience this year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim W.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gray E Fowler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 19, 2006 3:11
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Sportsman supplemental rules?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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</span></font><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:sans-serif'>Wow! I find it hard to believe that someone would
own and fly a plane that they in essence cannot land. That is a beginners
mistake and I see it alot at my club, and we call it "Too much plane
for the pilot". Usually this happens with a persons second airplane of his
RC career, not someone at a competition. We all bung a landing now and then (
as if evident for the constant need of replacement chin cowls) , but I have to
seriously question that if at a contest a pilot cannot land a plane they
brought, should it be allowed? If it is too much plane for the pilot, the
pilot need to step down his plane or learn to land it in PRACTICE, before his
thumbs are shakin' at a contest.</span></font> <br>
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<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>I
will once again cast another vote to score T/O and Landings knowing the odds
are in my favor that "others" will not a second time sneek around the
majority to enact personal agendas-but thats a differnet topic......</span></font>
<br>
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<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>When
flying RC planes of ANY type there are only two required manuevers...T/O and
then Landing.</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'><br>
<br>
<br>
Gray Fowler<br>
Senior Principal Chemical Engineer<br>
Radome and Composites Engineering<br>
Raytheon</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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