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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for the responses…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Pavlick<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, June 10, 2006 9:41
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Masters - Humpy Bump w/ Pilot Option</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Yup, you were screwed! Only thing to do at
that point is gracefully take the 0 and set up for the next maneuver (like you
did). The most common thing that happens with the Humpty, and the thing
that you really lneed to ook for when judging, happens when there are 1/4 rolls
on the lines. Here's what happens: the pilot executes the first 1/4 roll on the
up line, then pulls (or pushes) over the top - OK so far. Now here's where you
need to watch. If the pilot makes a mistake and rolls the WRONG
way on the downline the only way to survive is to execute a 3/4 roll
so they end up pointed in the right direction for the PULL out. If you're
sleeping in the judges chair you could miss the error. Since the 1 in 15 rule
applies, the maneuver is a 0. And yes, I've made this mistake as a pilot, but
NOT when I'm judging.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>John Pavlick<br>
<a href="http://www.idseng.com/" target="_blank">http://www.idseng.com</a><br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> -----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Eddie Batchelor<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, June 10, 2006 9:41
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Masters - Humpy Bump w/ Pilot Option<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Last year at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Nederland</st1:City></st1:place> while flying Intermediate I entered
the HB thinking of the stall turn /full roll up soooooo needless to say I
pulled to vertical and promptly did a full roll. My caller (<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Richard Lewis</st1:PersonName>) asked me “now what are you
gonna do”. My answer was there ain’t nothing I CAN do from here so
I guess I’ll set up for the cobra. Later I wondered if there was an
option that would’ve allowed me to legally finish the HB. This thread
proves I was screwed from the moment I executed the full roll up <VBG><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Eddie<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rcmaster199@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 09, 2006 11:24
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Masters - Humpy Bump w/ Pilot Option</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Larry, the Options HB has many options as the name states,
but a 3/4 roll in one of the verticals IS NOT one of them. A 3/4 roll
in one of the verticals makes this maneuver something other than the Options
Humpty and the maneuver should have been zeroed. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The Options humpty requires the model to enter and exit
upright with 180 degree directional reversal. The rest of the maneuver may be
done as follows: The model may be 1/2 rolled up <u>OR</u> down and may be
pulled OR pushed over the top. It may also be 1/4 rolled up <u>AND </u>down and
may be pushed or pulled over the top.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>As with all end of the box reversals, entry and exit
altitudes do not have to match. The pilot has the option to correct altitude in
the reversal, BUT if rolls or other elements are flown in the verticals, each
element must be centered in its own vertical line.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Make sense??<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Matt<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>In a message dated 6/9/2006 7:26:09 PM Eastern Standard
Time, lld613@psci.net writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Judging the
Masters at a contest last weekend the pilot reversed the HB maneuvers (7 and
13). I scored the 1<sup>st</sup> HB as a zero because the pilot did not perform
the ¾ down, only a ¼ if I recall correctly. But on the HB w/ Pilot Options I
did not down grade for the ¾ roll down.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Should this
have been a down-grade?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Larry</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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