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<DIV><SPAN class=040112714-10062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Yup,
you were screwed! Only thing to do at that point is gracefully take the 0 and
set up for the next maneuver (like you did). The most common thing that
happens with the Humpty, and the thing that you really lneed to ook for
when judging, happens when there are 1/4 rolls on the lines. Here's what
happens: the pilot executes the first 1/4 roll on the up line, then pulls (or
pushes) over the top - OK so far. Now here's where you need to
watch. If the pilot makes a mistake and rolls the WRONG way on
the downline the only way to survive is to execute a 3/4 roll so they end
up pointed in the right direction for the PULL out. If you're sleeping in the
judges chair you could miss the error. Since the 1 in 15 rule applies, the
maneuver is a 0. And yes, I've made this mistake as a pilot, but NOT when I'm
judging.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=040112714-10062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><FONT
size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A href="http://www.idseng.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A><BR> </FONT> </DIV></FONT></SPAN>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=040112714-10062006> </SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Eddie
Batchelor<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 10, 2006 9:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'NSRCA
Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters - Humpy Bump w/
Pilot Option<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Last year at
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Nederland</st1:place></st1:City>
while flying Intermediate I entered the HB thinking of the stall turn /full
roll up soooooo needless to say I pulled to vertical and promptly did a full
roll. My caller (<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Richard Lewis</st1:PersonName>)
asked me “now what are you gonna do”. My answer was there ain’t nothing I CAN
do from here so I guess I’ll set up for the cobra. Later I wondered if there
was an option that would’ve allowed me to legally finish the HB. This thread
proves I was screwed from the moment I executed the full roll up
<VBG><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Eddie<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>Rcmaster199@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, June 09, 2006 11:24
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters -
Humpy Bump w/ Pilot Option</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Larry, the Options HB has many
options as the name states, but a 3/4 roll in one of the verticals IS
NOT one of them. A 3/4 roll in one of the verticals makes this maneuver
something other than the Options Humpty and the maneuver should have been
zeroed. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The Options humpty requires the
model to enter and exit upright with 180 degree directional reversal. The rest
of the maneuver may be done as follows: The model may be 1/2 rolled up
<U>OR</U> down and may be pulled OR pushed over the top. It may also be 1/4
rolled up <U>AND </U>down and may be pushed or pulled over the
top.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As with all end of the box
reversals, entry and exit altitudes do not have to match. The pilot has the
option to correct altitude in the reversal, BUT if rolls or other elements are
flown in the verticals, each element must be centered in its own vertical
line.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Make
sense??<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Matt<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In a message dated 6/9/2006
7:26:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, lld613@psci.net
writes:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Judging
the Masters at a contest last weekend the pilot reversed the HB maneuvers (7
and 13). I scored the 1<SUP>st</SUP> HB as a zero because the pilot did not
perform the ¾ down, only a ¼ if I recall correctly. But on the HB w/ Pilot
Options I did not down grade for the ¾ roll
down.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Should
this have been a down-grade?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Larry</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>