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<DIV>Chad,</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks, looks like the temperature sensor is not the solution. I am already ordering one of the chargers you suggested with balancer. Clearly, that will be safer option.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
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<DIV>Vicente Bortone</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Chad Northeast <chadnortheast@shaw.ca> <BR><BR>> Even charging at 2 and 3C (I do this on 3s 2100's) they dont get warm....maybe <BR>> 5C warmer but no where near what they get while flying. <BR>> <BR>> Over-voltage (the main cause of fire while charging) protective circuits are a <BR>> far more reliable way to shut down a charge...as well protecting cells from <BR>> serious damage. By the time they get hot enough to set off your thermal device <BR>> you are probably already dangerously close to enough voltage for a fire....and <BR>> your packs would be completely toast even if the charge was terminated. <BR>> <BR>> There are now a number of balancers/balancing chargers that incorporate some <BR>> form of charger shutdown/interruption for over-voltage....Schulze, Orbit, TP, <BR>> Hyperion just to na
me some. <BR>> <BR>> Chad <BR>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; <BR>> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006F_01C67FF3.3A8BD1A0" <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C67FF3.3A8BD1A0 <BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; <BR>> charset="US-ASCII" <BR>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <BR>> <BR>> It may depend on the charge rate. I charge my 2100s @ 2A and they don't = <BR>> even <BR>> get warm and the Elite, with temp probe, has never shut down. <BR>> =20 <BR>> -----Original Message----- <BR>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Michael <BR>> Laggis <BR>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:57 AM <BR>> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List' <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Some more lipo fire videos <BR>> =20 <BR>> Vicente, <BR>> I believe with Li-Poly you would be pass the point of no return if the <BR>> batteries got warm eno
ugh to do the thermal shut off. I may be wrong. <BR>> =20 <BR>> Michael <BR>> =20 <BR>> _____ =20 <BR>> <BR>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of <BR>> vicenterc@comcast.net <BR>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:27 AM <BR>> To: NSRCA Mailing List; NSRCA Mailing List <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Some more lipo fire videos <BR>> I am new in using LiPo. I started with small foamy just to learn about <BR>> e-power. I am using the Elite Charger that monitors the battery <BR>> temperature. I bought the sensors and I am using when charging the = <BR>> LiPo. <BR>> The sensors shots down the charging if the temperature goes over a set <BR>> point. My question to the experts: Is the temperature sensor safe to <BR>> monitor LiPO charging? I am charging only at the field on my trailer. = <BR>> I <BR>> put the batteries over a ceramic title. Now I a
m using 640 mah = <BR>> batteries <BR>> but planing to use 2100 mah in my new Brio. After watching those tapes <BR>> looks like I need to get something better to place the batteries. = <BR>> Probably <BR>> I need to install a fire place in my trailer. Better ideas? <BR>> =20 <BR>> I don't think that many guys out there seat down and watch the charging <BR>> process. We can get distracted very easy. It is really boring to keep <BR>> looking a battery charging. The industry has to come with better ideas = <BR>> to <BR>> monitor this process and do something intelligent automatically to = <BR>> prevent <BR>> accidents. I think temperature sensors is a good idea. <BR>> =20 <BR>> Vicente Bortone <BR>> =20 <BR>> -------------- Original message --------------=20 <BR>> From: "Ed Miller" <EDBON85@CHARTER.NET>=20 <BR>> I feel much better about being fully invested in 3 - OS 140RX's, pipes = <BR>> and <BR>> headers. I'll wait till
the battery technology gets a bit safer and = <BR>> more <BR>> idiot proof. No doubt the future is E power, just not yet for me. = <BR>> We've <BR>> had a few Lipo incidents at the local field while charging, thankfully = <BR>> no <BR>> major damage. It seems charging is the critical time, has anyone heard = <BR>> of or <BR>> seen a Lipo failure while in use or sitting unused ?? <BR>> Ed M. <BR>> ----- Original Message -----=20 <BR>> From: Larry <?xml:namespace prefix = mailto /><mailto:ledunn@centurytel.net>=20 <BR>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org=20 <BR>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:18 AM <BR>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Some more lipo fire videos <BR>> =20 <BR>> Maybe this is a good time to share these videos - if you haven't seen = <BR>> them <BR>> they are well worth watching. Look on the left side of the bottom of the <BR>> main page. <BR>> =20 <BR>> Lipos fires 1,2 & 3 <BR>> =20 <BR>> http:/
/www.utahflyers.org/ <BR>> =20 <BR>> I have become a bit of a lipo safety nazi lately - ever since I had my = <BR>> first <BR>> lipo fire a couple of months ago. <BR>> =20 <BR>> I have been using lipos since the early days. I'm a smart guy with a <BR>> background in electronics and all things electrical. I am known as = <BR>> "Electric <BR>> Larry" at our field. I teach other people how to do electrics and what = <BR>> NOT <BR>> to do. I'm the go-to guy in our club. In spite of all that - I had a = <BR>> major <BR>> lipo fire a couple of months ago that destroyed almost all my RC gear = <BR>> and <BR>> planes and came very close to burning down my house. It was 100% my = <BR>> fault. I <BR>> was doing too many things at once and had become casual/careless in my = <BR>> care <BR>> of lipos. I had gone YEARS with no issues at all and had gotten = <BR>> complacent. <BR>> =20 <BR>> My equipment and charging routines are
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=#3d0a00 size=3><SPAN ="<BR">> style=3D'font-size: <BR>> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It may depend on the charge rate. I = <BR>> charge <BR>> my 2100s @ 2A and they don’t even get warm and the Elite, with = <BR>> temp <BR>> probe, has never shut down.<?xml:namespace prefix = o /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3DTahoma><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original = <BR>> Message-----<BR><BR>> <B><SPAN>From:</SPAN></B> <BR>> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN ="<BR">> style=3D'font-weight: <BR>> bold'>On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Michael Laggis<BR><BR>> <B><SPAN>Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, May 25, = <BR>> 2006 11:57 <BR>> AM<BR><BR>> <B><SPAN>To:</SPAN></B> 'NSRCA Mailing = <BR>> List'<BR><BR>> <B><SPAN>Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: = <BR>> [NSRCA-discussion] <BR>> Some more lipo fire videos</SPAN></FONT></P><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> color=3Dblue face=3DArial><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Vicente,</SPAN></= <BR>> font><o:p></o:p></P><BR>> <BR>>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> color=3Dblue face=3DArial><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I believe with = <BR>> Li-Poly <BR>> you would be pass the point of no return if the batteries got warm = <BR>> enough to do <BR>> the thermal shut off. I may be wrong.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal ="<BR">> style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom: <BR>> 12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3><SPAN ="<BR">> style=3D'font-size: <BR>> 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT <BR>> size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><SPAN ="<BR">> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <BR>> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org = <BR>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <BR>> <B><SPAN>On Behalf Of = <BR>> </SPAN></B>vicenterc@comcast.net<BR><BR>> <B><SPAN>Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, May 25, = <BR>> 2006 6:27 <BR>> AM<BR><BR>> <B><SPAN>To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing List; = <BR>> NSRCA <BR>> Mailing List<BR><BR>> <B><SPAN>Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: = <BR>> [NSRCA-discussion] <BR>> Some more lipo fire videos</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I am new in using LiPo. I started with = <BR>> small <BR>> foamy just to learn about e-power. I am using the Elite = <BR>> Charger that <BR>> monitors the battery temperature. I bought the sensors and I = <BR>> am <BR>> using when charging the LiPo. The sensors shots down the charging = <BR>> if the <BR>> temperature goes over a set point. My question to the = <BR>> experts: Is <BR>> the temperature sensor safe to monitor LiPO charging? I am = <BR>> charging <BR>> only at the field on my trailer. I put the batteries over a = <BR>> ceramic <BR>> title. Now I am using 640 mah batteries but planing to use 2100 = <BR>> mah in my <BR>> new Brio. After watching those tapes looks like I need to get = <BR>> something <BR>> better to place the bat
teries. Probably I need to install a fire = <BR>> place in <BR>> my trailer. Better ideas?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I don't think that many guys out there seat = <BR>> down and <BR>> watch the charging process. We can get distracted very easy. = <BR>> It is <BR>> really boring to keep looking a battery charging. The industry has = <BR>> to <BR>> come with better ideas to monitor this process and do something = <BR>> intelligent <BR>> automatically to prevent accidents. I think temperature sensors is = <BR>> a good <BR>> idea.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Vicente Bortone<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>-------------- Original message = <BR>> -------------- <BR><BR>> From: "Ed Miller" <edbon85@charter.net> = <BR>> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3D"Times New Roman"><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I feel much better about being fully invested = <BR>> in 3 - <BR>> OS 140RX's, pipes and headers. I'll wait till the battery = <BR>> technology gets <BR>> a bit safer and more idiot proof. No doubt the future is E power, = <BR>> just <BR>> not yet for me. We've had a few Lipo incidents at the local field = <BR>> while <BR>> charging, thankfully no major damage. It seems charging is the critical = <BR>> time, <BR>> has anyone heard of or seen a Lipo failure while in use or sitting = <BR>> unused ??<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3DArial><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message = <BR>> ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3DArial><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</SPAN><= <BR>> /font></B><FONT <BR>> size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN ="<BR">> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <A <BR>> href=3D"mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" <BR>> title=3D"nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.o= <BR>> rg</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3DArial><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</SPAN= <BR>> ></FONT></B><FONT <BR>> size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN ="<BR">> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday, <BR>> May 25, 2006 12:18 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3DArial><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</S= <BR>> pan></FONT></B><FONT <BR>> size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN ="<BR">> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <BR>> [NSRCA-discussion] Some more lipo fire = <BR>> videos<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3DArial><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Maybe this is a good time = <BR>> to share <BR>> these videos - if you haven't seen them they are well worth watching. = <BR>> Look on <BR>> the left side of the bottom of the main = <BR>> page.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3DArial><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Lipos fires 1,2 & = <BR>> 3</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3DArial><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have become a bit of a = <BR>> lipo safety <BR>> nazi lately - ever since I had my first lipo fire a couple of months = <BR>> ago.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3DArial><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have been using lipos = <BR>> since the <BR>> early days. I'm a smart guy with a background in electronics and all = <BR>> things <BR>> electrical. I am known as "Electric Larry" at our field. I = <BR>> teach <BR>> other people how to do electrics and what NOT to do. I'm the go-to guy = <BR>> in our club. <BR>> In spite of all that - I had a major lipo fire a couple of months ago = <BR>> that <BR>> destroyed almost all my RC gear and planes and came very close to = <BR>> burning down <BR>> my house. It was 100% my fault. I was doing too many things at once <BR>> and had become casual/careless in my care of lipos. I had = <BR>> gone YEARS <BR>> with no issues at all and had gotten = <BR>> complacent.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3DArial><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>My equipment and charging = <BR>> routines <BR>> are now 100% improved.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT size=3 ="<BR">> face=3DArial><SPAN <BR>> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Be careful = <BR>> guys.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><BR>> <BR>> </DIV><BR>> <BR>>
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