Hey Ed most of us have found the rudder servo needs to be in the tail. They seem to be a little nose heavy with the pull pull. Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Ed Alt <ed_alt@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C66517.BF5500B0" rel=File-List><LINK href="cid:editdata.mso@01C66517.BF5500B0" rel=Edit-Time-Data> <STYLE>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } </STYLE> <STYLE> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:1627421319
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span.GramE {mso-style-name:""; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:.2in .25in 33.1pt .25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rudder servo is in the cabin, pull-pull</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=lightfoot@sc.rr.com href="mailto:lightfoot@sc.rr.com">Jay Marshall</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 21, 2006 7:46 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt
arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio 10 Set up</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Let’s hear how you do. I am about a week behind you with the same setup except that I am using a TP 2100 mAh (3p), because I have one available and for the same reason I’m using HS-55s. I also switched to a Castle Creations Phoenix-25 ESC for the additional features. Where did you put the rudder servo?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Ed Alt<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, April 21, 2006 1:45 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio 10 Set up</SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I just finished setting everything up in my "minúsculo Brio". I grudgingly decided to use the Spektrum. REALLY wanted to use the 10SXII or 10X, but
why buy another receiver. I like my Spektrum for foamy work, but thinking ahead to having to finally learn how to do useful mixes, fake a rudder DR with a mix etc, get the switches working the way I want, I was being lazy and wanted to avoid it. So I finally hit the books and have it configured right, the only important piece missing is no expo on rudder. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm trying the "best recommended setup", i.e. the E-flite Park 480 1010Kv outrunner and the E-flite 40A ESC and starting out with TP 1320's. Bench tests don't seem too envouraging re. how the vertical will fare
with just a 1320, but we'll see. Seems to sag fairly quickly and it might really need a 2100 pack. The weight is encouraging though and another 2 oz with a TP 2100 isn't going to matter much I guess. I skipped their little plastic spinner and the all-up weight with Spektrum Rx and 4 JR 281's is 28.9 oz, at the low end of their recommended weight range of 28-34 oz. I was suprised at how far forward I had to put the battery to achieve a 4" starting balance point from the LE. It's as far forward as it can go. Hoping to fly soon if the weather cooperates.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">BTW,
has anyone using the 281 digitals noticed that they are never 'happy'? All of mine run through this cyclic little 'blit' where they can't help but try moving a step and then go back. It's not an oscillation per se, there are several seconds or more between these 'blits' and it is competely unrelated to whether they are connected to a control surface or not and also unrelated to battery voltage to the receiver. Also unrelated to receiver type or transmitter used, doing the same thing on a R955S as it does connected to a Spektrum receiver. No relation to lead length either. It's just what they like to do apparently. Anyone else seeing this? Seems like a deadband value issue could be involved.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div
class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 3pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> <div class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"> <A title=patternrules@earthlink.net href="mailto:patternrules@earthlink.net">Steven Maxwell</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Sunday, April 16, 2006 5:17 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div
class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio 10 Set up<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <DIV>
<div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Steven Maxwell<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; PADDING-LEFT: 3pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 3pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> <div class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=Pattrnflyr@aol.com href="mailto:Pattrnflyr@aol.com"></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To: </SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> 4/16/2006 4:36:02 PM <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> [NSRCA-discussion] Brio 10 Set up<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR:
black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just wondering which motor, battery, ESC, prop to use on this aircraft. Also I fly at 6000 msl. Where would you buy all the accessories and aircraft. TIA<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=3> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <div class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion mailing
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