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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you ever decide to get rid of it, you'll get
most of your money back, just ck ebay.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=ehaury@houston.rr.com href="mailto:ehaury@houston.rr.com">Earl
Haury</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, 2006 9:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Electrics</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At least the good news with the Honda is that
it's CARB certified (has a catalytic converter) and is quiet, max of 59 dB @
WOT, closer to 53 powering chargers, lots better than most gens (of course
this is reflected in the price). </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=jpavlick@idseng.com href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">John
Pavlick</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, 2006 7:08
PM</DIV>
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Electrics</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=620115923-14042006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Yeah, and the glow motors are more environmentally friendly
(emissions-wise) than the gasoline motor in the generator. And they
don't generate waste oil which has to be recycled. Not to mention the lead
in the deep cycle batteries that will eventually have to be recycled as
well. How loud is the generator compared to a glow pattern plane? Don't
forget, even when you charge from the wall using a power supply, THAT energy
probably didn't come from hydro-electric power plants or solar cells.
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=620115923-14042006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Geez, the more you think about it...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A href="http://www.idseng.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A><BR> </FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Earl
Haury<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, 2006 7:51 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The AGM (absorbed glass mat) deep cycle
batteries are probably a better choice than gel. At least the AGM can be
charge at high current (less time) than the gel cell and can cost less. I
have an Optima 55 Ahr AGM (120 min @ 25A reserve rating) that works well
for 3 charges using a pair of Astros, will do a 4th charge
if single chargers are used. It accepts 55A @ 14.2V from the
Iota, current tapers as batt voltage rises - takes about 3hr until charge
rate drops to 1A.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also picked up a Honda EU2000i generator.
This thing is barely off idle running 4 Astros from an Iota supply. Picks
up a little if a 400W soldering iron and shop fan is added. Living in a
hurricane area I justified it as being able to also handle a few (select)
household items. It does seem a bit ironic to change to E for
airplanes and buy a gasoline fueled device to charge them
-ugh!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=natpenton@centurytel.net
href="mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net">Nat Penton</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, 2006 2:08
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion]
Electrics</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The only battery giving me a problem is the
lead acid Marine 'deep discharge' battery used for field
charging of the lipos. It has lost about 70% of it's capacity in
seven months.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It provided six 12min flts when new and was
purchased from Academy Surplus for $40. It has provided a total of
maybe 80 flights ( 30 cycles ??? ). The problem is likely due to my
maintenance ( lack thereof ). I left the battery in a partial
discharge state sometmes for weeks. </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>You
can find maintenance needs on Google at agmbatteries, courtesy Earl
Haury.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>West Mountain sells a gell cell, 54#, 84ah,
rated for 500 cycles @ 100% discharge ( 20hr discharge rate ), $149 del.
I will see how it performs under our conditions.</FONT></DIV>
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size=2>
Nat</FONT></DIV>
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