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<DIV><SPAN class=620115923-14042006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Yeah,
and the glow motors are more environmentally friendly (emissions-wise) than the
gasoline motor in the generator. And they don't generate waste oil which
has to be recycled. Not to mention the lead in the deep cycle batteries that
will eventually have to be recycled as well. How loud is the generator compared
to a glow pattern plane? Don't forget, even when you charge from the wall using
a power supply, THAT energy probably didn't come from hydro-electric power
plants or solar cells. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=620115923-14042006><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Geez, the more you think about
it...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A href="http://www.idseng.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A><BR> </FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Earl
Haury<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, 2006 7:51 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Electrics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The AGM (absorbed glass mat) deep cycle batteries
are probably a better choice than gel. At least the AGM can be charge at high
current (less time) than the gel cell and can cost less. I have an Optima 55
Ahr AGM (120 min @ 25A reserve rating) that works well for 3 charges using a
pair of Astros, will do a 4th charge if single chargers are used.
It accepts 55A @ 14.2V from the Iota, current tapers as batt voltage rises -
takes about 3hr until charge rate drops to 1A.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also picked up a Honda EU2000i generator. This
thing is barely off idle running 4 Astros from an Iota supply. Picks up a
little if a 400W soldering iron and shop fan is added. Living in a hurricane
area I justified it as being able to also handle a few (select) household
items. It does seem a bit ironic to change to E for airplanes and buy a
gasoline fueled device to charge them -ugh!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=natpenton@centurytel.net href="mailto:natpenton@centurytel.net">Nat
Penton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 14, 2006 2:08
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion]
Electrics</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The only battery giving me a problem is the
lead acid Marine 'deep discharge' battery used for field charging
of the lipos. It has lost about 70% of it's capacity in seven
months.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It provided six 12min flts when new and was
purchased from Academy Surplus for $40. It has provided a total of
maybe 80 flights ( 30 cycles ??? ). The problem is likely due to my
maintenance ( lack thereof ). I left the battery in a partial discharge
state sometmes for weeks. </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>You can find
maintenance needs on Google at agmbatteries, courtesy Earl
Haury.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>West Mountain sells a gell cell, 54#, 84ah,
rated for 500 cycles @ 100% discharge ( 20hr discharge rate ), $149 del. I
will see how it performs under our conditions.</FONT></DIV>
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size=2>
Nat</FONT></DIV>
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