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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think that their warranty is rather
impressive. Pack degrades after 100 cycles within 6 months of purchase as
long as you didn’t crash it or they can somehow prove that you overheated
it and they fix or replace the pack.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don’t think you can ask for much
better wording of a warranty.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>skyjules1@comcast.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 04, 2006 3:36
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Falcon F3A batteries follow up</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Warranty verbage seems to exclude anything of high amperage outside of
receiver/servo<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>loads (i.e. typical pattern plane use). Has anyone been successful in
warranty negotiating a new<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>battery pack that has been used for Hacker, Axi etc. electric motors?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Jules <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>-------------- Original message -------------- <br>
From: Stuart Chale <schale@optonline.net> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Just a follow up on the Falcon battery
discussion. </span></font><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>George sent me some additional info on the
batteries and their warranty. The warranty is worth looking at.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>First his clarification of a statement
where he said that their batteries are heavier and therefore more robust than
TP.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stuart C.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As you say, heavier doesnt <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>necessarily</span></i> mean better. You are
correct, at least in principle, that newer technology can yield a higher
energy/mass ratio. As I am fond of telling people, LiPos exist in a
give and take world. Given the current chemistry remains constant, one
can make design changes which can swing the pendulum in favor of energy or they
swing the pendulum in favor of cycle life. You have probably noticed 20C
batteries are typically heavier, more expensive, and do not, (in many cases),
have a favorable cycle per dollar ratio. At another point in the spectrum
is the lighter cell which yields relatively high energy but with less weight
and lower cycle life. The cell design in the F3As is a combination
designed to yield high energy and high cycle life. So, when I say! ,
robust, I mean our cells are a little heavier than some but they
should deliver equal or superior performance and last longer. Combined
with the zero-delta matching, these packs should far outlast normal
or lite packs. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The warranty on these packs is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><strong><b><i><font
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black;font-style:
italic'>Falcon F3A Pro Series Batteries</span></font></i></b></strong><font
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> are
warranted against<i><span style='font-style:italic'> </span></i>failure, under
normal conditions in typical pattern aircraft use, during the first 6
months from date of invoice. Examples
of failures eligible for pack replacement include, but are
not limited to, manufacturing defects, defects in workmanship, failure to
achieve proper cell balance, cell failure, inability to maintain proper
voltage during discharge, significantly diminished mAh capacity, cell/pack
swelling not due to misuse. There is no limit on the number of cycles during
the warr! anty period. A failed pack will be replaced or repaired free of
charge, provided failure is not the result of customer abuse. Some examples of
abuse include misuse, crash related damage, improper charging / discharging,
shorting, operation outside of upper temperature limits (150 degree F), and
mechanical damage. Warranty decisions are on a claim-by-claim basis with
emphasis on customer satisfaction.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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