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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I've been present for portions of the last two unknown
selection meetings. I can't imagine anyone there wanting a proxy with everything
that's at stake. It's really an interactive meeting and they don't know until it
starts what order they'll be drawing in. That order dictates a number of
variables such as upwind maneuver, downwind, maneuver, or turnaround. Those
selections are obviously dependant on what maneuver was just chosen to precede
it. Naturally, each competitor is doing their level best to pick maneuvers
they're strongest in at the potential detriment to their fellow competitors.
Additionally, I'm not sure the judging assignment of someone who's heart is at
the meeting would get the attention it deserves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Verne</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=derekkoopowitz@gmail.com href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">Derek
Koopowitz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 02, 2006 8:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team
trials</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=496330900-03042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>That is correct but they can send a proxy to the unknown
selection as well. </FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Verne
Koester<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team
trials<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Derek,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Creating the unknowns in the afternoon complicates
things for the CD because he would then have to find replacements for any of
the FAI finalists that have Masters judging assignments. It's all a pretty
delicate balance from what I've seen and makes me really appreciate the CD,
whoever it happens to be.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Verne Koester</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=derekkoopowitz@gmail.com
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">Derek Koopowitz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:41
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA
team trials</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=634443816-02042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Mike,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=634443816-02042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Having just joined this board I was not aware that
there would be a team trials at this years Nats - so these messages over the
past few days are news to me. I was aware, and voted against having
the banquet on Tuesday night instead of Wednesday night since I felt that
the unknowns for FAI could be selected in the afternoon (FAI will be flying
in the morning) instead of Wednesday night.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=634443816-02042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I will bring this up with Lamar to see what's going
on...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=634443816-02042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>-Derek</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>mike
mueller<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:40 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team
trials<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV> So who makes the decision? Is this made by the board? Just
wondering. Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Derek Koopowitz
<derekkoopowitz@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Well
stated and I agree.<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<BR>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
On Behalf Of Grow Pattern<BR>Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:39 PM<BR>To:
NSRCA Mailing List<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team
trials<BR><BR>Earl,<BR>In the last printed format for the 2006 Nationals
FAI class was<BR>being run as follows. P-07 on Monday and Tuesday,Semi's
on Wednesday flying<BR>F-07, and then Final's on Thursday with two F-07's
and two different<BR>unknowns. To run a team trials this would have to be
changed.<BR><BR>So I agree with Ron's concern about changing things,
(someone get Ron some<BR>smelling salts quick!), just for FAI team
selection needs. I have seen a<BR>lot of that over the years. A team
trials has a marked effect upon judge<BR>selection and the payment of the
extra judges who come in for the FAI<BR>selection component. It already
has spilled over into the social side of the<BR>Nat's where our banquet is
now on a Tuesday night so that FAI unknown<BR>schedules can be drawn up on
the Wednesday night.<BR><BR>It also puts a lot onto the Nat's event
director and invariably the other<BR>classes experience some neglect. I
also wonder if it wise to have the same<BR>guy running the Nat's and the
team trials, especially when the some of the<BR>top FAI pilots are
sponsored directly of indirectly by the same individual.<BR><BR>I would be
much happier if the FAI team selection was not run by the AMA<BR>Nat's
event director. I would also like to keep the Nat's for the
majority<BR>who come for the
participation.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Eric.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----
Original Message -----<BR>From: "Earl Haury"
<EHAURY@HOUSTON.RR.COM><BR>To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 5:14
PM<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials<BR><BR><BR>>
Ron<BR>><BR>> There is no proposal to change the Nats format for the
TS. There is an<BR>> additional fee for participation in the program
and finals judges are <BR>> being<BR>> recruited beforehand. This
excerpt from the program should cover concerns<BR>> about the
event.<BR>> "Event Qualification. The US Team will be selected by the
order of finish <BR>> in<BR>> F3A by U.S. pilots at the 2006 U.S.
Nationals. All TSP participants will<BR>> have to enter the U.S.
Nationals in order to be eligible to make the U.S.<BR>>
Team."<BR>><BR>>
Earl<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> -----
Original Message ----- <BR>> From: <VANPUTTE@COX.NET><BR>> To:
"NSRCA Mailing List" <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Sent:
Saturday, April 01, 2006 2:10 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
USA team
trials<BR>><BR>><BR>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> From:
"Earl Haury" <EHAURY@HOUSTON.RR.COM><BR>>>> Date: 2006/03/31 Fri
PM 10:08:33 EST<BR>>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>>>> Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials<BR>>>><BR>>>> The
original plan was to hold the Team Selections for the '07 WC at
next<BR>>>> year's Nats. However, the '07 WC are to be in April
of '07 making it<BR>>>> necessary to move the TS to this year's
Nats. If you, or anyone else, is<BR>>>> interested in details /
entry forms please contact Lisa Johnson<BR>>>>
(lisaj@modelaircraft.org), AMA Competitions Dept.<BR>>><BR>>>
My fear, which is justified based on what AMA tried to do before, is
that<BR>>> there will be an attempt by AMA personnel to abbreviate
the Nats events <BR>>> in<BR>>> the case of bad weather, so
that the Team Selection can be completed. I<BR>>> believe that the
best combination of Nats and F3A Team Selection is to <BR>>>
say<BR>>> the the U.S. team is the top three placing U.S. citizens
in F3A at the<BR>>> Nats. Period.<BR>>><BR>>> Ron Van
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