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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yea, I do the same thing with my OS 160’s,
and they only cost $239!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Gene Maurice</span></font><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>, <st1:State w:st="on">TX</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>jeffghughes@comcast.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 31, 2006 2:26
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName>; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Falcon F3A batteries</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Oh, we're talking about electrics. for a minute I thought we were
discussing my OS1.40. I can go to the field, fly four flights as quick as I can
refuel and not have to worry about burning down my house in the evening :) Oh,
yeah, once a year I have to change the glow plug.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>-------------- Original message -------------- <br>
From: "J.Oddino" <joddino@socal.rr.com> <br>
<br>
> It sounds like the real difference is the consistency that eliminates all <br>
> the tweeking with the glow power plants. My brief experience with the
Webra <br>
> 160 showed my time on the ground trying to get in the air was long
compared <br>
> to the time in the air. Once I got in the air it was great but I couldn't <br>
> stand the before and after. <br>
> <br>
> Jim O <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> From: "Richard Strickland" <br>
<RICHARD.S@ALLIED-CALLAWAY.COM>> To: "'<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'" <br>
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:02 PM <br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> > I would put the wings on and batteries in at the car, lug it, anothe!
r set <br>
> of <br>
> > batts, and the transmitter out to the flightline, fly, remove that
set, <br>
> put <br>
> > in the second, run the first set to the car to charge, fly, remove
the <br>
> > second set, put in the third, run the second set to the car, bitch
that <br>
> the <br>
> > first set wasn't quite done, fly, take the third set out, run to the
car, <br>
> > exchange the first set for the second set, install the first again
and <br>
> fly, <br>
> > take the airplane and trans back to the car, remove wings, load and
go <br>
> home. <br>
> > Several times from the time I left work and the time I got home was
right <br>
> at <br>
> > 2 hours total and the field is roughly 20 mins away to and from. 4
flts <br>
> in <br>
> > about an hour and 15 mins. with 3 sets at 1C charge rate. 5 flts would
<br>
> > start to stretch things out. I left the scene about the time
balancing <br>
> > started to hit str! ide. At 1.5 C you could get 5-6 in 2hours or so.
No <br>
> > fiel d box, tools, fuel, starter, paper towels and Windex, extra
trips to <br>
> the <br>
> > car to get going; no clean up and hauling it all back to the car. Of <br>
> > course, there were more social evenings that took more time-but if I
was <br>
> 'on <br>
> > a mission' to practice with limited time, the guys understood. BTW,
the <br>
> > Hackers and Master controllers did just fine temperature wise. Things
<br>
> > seemed so reliable in that department that I had asked Hacker how
long b4 <br>
> I <br>
> > have to do some service on the motor and gearbox-they said to send it
back <br>
> > about every 300 flts and they'd clean and regrease the gear-set,
replace <br>
> if <br>
> > needed(15.00), and the motor would run almost indefinitely. With the <br>
> > exception of installing the wings, it's like flying foamies-you do
the <br>
> same <br>
> > stuff-just a little bigger. Speaking of Chip, I noticed he processed
5 ! <br>
> sets <br>
> > at the Worlds'. Man, that's livin'! A small red Honda may be in my <br>
> > future.... <br>
> > <br>
> > Richard <br>
> > <br>
> > -----Original Message----- <br>
> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org <br>
> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
J.Oddino <br>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:47 PM <br>
> > To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName> <br>
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries <br>
> > <br>
> > Richard, can you explain why you got so many more flights in a given <br>
> amount <br>
> > of field time. Less tinkering or what? I've heard Chip make similar <br>
> > comments. <br>
> > <br>
> > Jim O <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> > From: "Richard Strickland" <br>
<RICHARD.S@ALLIED-CALLAWAY.COM>> > To: "'<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'" <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><B! R>>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:17 AM <br>
> > Subj ect: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > > There is a World of difference between a sport flyer and a
pattern guy. <br>
> > > Again, once I got programmed in what it took to practice and the
<br>
> > relatively <br>
> > > small amount of time it took, I was able to go out and get 35-50
flights <br>
> a <br>
> > > week-I 'found' 1 1/2 to 2 hours more often as opposed to the 3-4
it used <br>
> > to <br>
> > > take and practiced more. At that rate, when a guy gives you a 6
mo. <br>
> > > guarantee-he'd better know the score-and what you expect in
service <br>
> > > turn-around. Unlike a sport guy who flies 3-8 or so flights a
weekend <br>
> > where <br>
> > > a 6 mo. guarantee would be reasonable. I think many of the folks
who <br>
> are <br>
> > in <br>
> > > the battery business go from their experience as sport flyers
and not <br>
> &! gt; fairly <br>
> > > serious pattern fiends where practice-practice-practice is such
a large <br>
> > > component of probable success. <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Richard <br>
> > > <br>
> > > -----Original Message----- <br>
> > > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org <br>
> > > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
Stuart <br>
> > Chale <br>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:27 AM <br>
> > > To: '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'
<br>
> > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries <br>
> > > <br>
> > > George has been quick with email responses and very courteous,
but it <br>
> > > doesn't seem like he has the answers either. I can't find his
original <br>
> > > email but he was unable to say that there are people with over
100 <br>
> cycles <br>
> > on <br>
> > > a pack. He is convinced that their tech! nology is better than
TP but <br>
> will <br>
> > > that tra nslate into a longer life span? It seems like we are
being <br>
> asked <br>
> > to <br>
> > > test batteries for the manufacturers instead of them testing
their <br>
> > products <br>
> > > under our conditions. <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Stuart <br>
> > > <br>
> > > -----Original Message----- <br>
> > > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org <br>
> > > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
Earl <br>
> Haury <br>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:58 AM <br>
> > > To: chad@f3acanada.org; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing
List</st1:PersonName> <br>
> > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Chad <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Your questions are probably best answered by Falcon <br>
> > > George@FalconBatteries.com . I think that you'll find George
quite open <br>
> > with <br>
> > > <br>
> > &! gt; info, and I'd like to see your assessment of his answers. <br>
> > > <br>
> > > Earl <br>
> > > <br>
> > > ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> > > From: "Chad Northeast" <br>
<CHADNORTHEAST@SHAW.CA>> > > To: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName>" <br>
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG>> > > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006
9:42 AM <br>
> > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries <br>
> > > <br>
> > > <br>
> > > > Earl <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Does the Falcon warranty cover simply manufacturers
defects...or will <br>
> > they <br>
> > > <br>
> > > > replace any abuse/over charged/overdischarge/cycled out
pack? <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > I can't honestly believe that a manufacturer will replace
every pack <br>
> > that <br>
> > > > fails, or they will be out of business in a short period of
time :) <br>
&g! t; If <br>
> > > > that is the case I can buy 4 sets of pac ks and never again
purchase <br>
> > > > another battery for as long as they will supply them
regardless of <br>
> > usage. <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Just looking for some clarification on their warranty
statement. <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > Do you know who is making the cells? Their other packs are
APL I <br>
> > > > believe...wondering if they went to Enerland (like
Apogee/Tanic/Flight <br>
> > > > Power) did for the higher C cells. <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chad</st1:place></st1:country-region>
<br>
> > > > <br>
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> > > > From: Grow Pattern <br>
<PATTERN4U@COMCAST.NET>> > > > Date: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:26
am <br>
> > > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries <br>
> > > > <br>
> > > >> Earl, <br>
> > > >> You raise a very interesting point, What is spo!
nsored? <br>
> > > >> <br>
> > > >> I used to think it was either that you got paid to fly
by a <br>
> > > >> manufacturer/supplier/business, or that you got your
equipment <br>
> > > >> free. But <br>
> > > >> what if, for example, you got a discount on your OS
1.40 EFI ,or <br>
> > > >> free fuel <br>
> > > >> etc. Or another would be that you bought and built a
plane but <br>
> > > >> your <br>
> > > >> batteries were post gratis. <br>
> > > >> <br>
> > > >> This could be harder to define than a pattern
snap-roll. Hmmmm? <br>
> > > >> <br>
> > > >> To be clear to the potentially-paranoid-pattern-people",
I am <br>
> > > >> interested <br>
> > > >> for my own edification. (No hidden agenda). I do get
asked my <br>
> > > >> opinion on <br>
> > >! >> certain subjects and when I am not sure, I ask for my
opinio n :-) <br>
> > > >> <br>
> > > >> I would also add that many of the responses to the
electric issues <br>
> > > >> that I <br>
> > > >> have raised have given me a much better and more
balanced view <br>
> > > >> than the one <br>
> > > >> I had a few months ago. <br>
> > > >> <br>
> > > >> So, thanks in advance, <br>
> > > >> <br>
> > > >> Eric. <br>
> > > >> <br>
> > > >> <br>
> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> > > >> From: "Earl Haury" <br>
<EHAURY@HOUSTON.RR.COM>> > > >> To: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName>" <br>
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG>> > > >> Sent: Thursday, March
30, 2006 8:04 AM <br>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries <br>
> > > >> <br>
> > > >> <br>
> > > >>! ; > Stuart <br>
> > > >> > <br>
> > > >> > I'm using the first 4 packs sold. I've 48 cycles
on one set 18 <br>
> > > >> on the <br>
> > > >> > other. <br>
> > > >> > So far they've been fine, very little (if any)
balancing <br>
> > > >> activity. Don't <br>
> > > >> > have any idea what the cycle life will be - only
time will tell. <br>
> > > >> As the <br>
> > > >> > weather improves, opportunity for more flying will
accelerate cycle <br>
> > > >> > accumulation a bunch. I hope that there's no need
to exercise their <br>
> > > >> > warranty, but it's a nice feature. <br>
> > > >> > <br>
> > > >> > Just so there's no misunderstanding - I gathered
flight data to <br>
> > > >> help <br>
> > > >> > Falcon <br>
> > > >> &g! t; define the pack parameters and received a
bit of a discount <br>
> ; > > >> (that local <br>
> > > >> > sales tax mitigated) for that work. Don't know if
that's considered <br>
> > > >> > "sponsored", but I'm using them because
they work and Falcon <br>
> > > >> provides> excellent service. (I understand that they
had some <br>
> > > >> website problems <br>
> > > >> > recently, if anyone has problems with it - a phone
call will work.) <br>
> > > >> > <br>
> > > >> > Earl <br>
> > > >> > <br>
> > > >> > <br>
> > > >> > <br>
> > > >> > <br>
> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> > > >> > From: "Stuart Chale" <br>
<SCHALE@OPTONLINE.NET>> > > >> > To: "'<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'" <br>
<NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG>> > > >> > Sent: Thursday,
March 30, 2006 6:32 AM <br>
> > &! gt; >> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A
batteries <br>
> > > >> > <br>
> > > >> > <br>
> > > >> >> Is anyone using the Falcon F3A cells
advertised in the K- <br>
> > > >> Factor? Is <br>
> > > >> >> there <br>
> > > >> >> any track record behind them? <br>
> > > >> >> Thanks, <br>
> > > >> >> Stuart <br>
> > > >> >> <br>
> > > >> >> <br>
> > > >> >>
_______________________________________________ <br>
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> > > >> >> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <br>
> > > >> >>
http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <br>
> > > >> >> <br>
> > > >> > <br>
> > > >> > <br>
> > > >> &! gt;
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