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<DIV>Stuart, the 0 and 10 also started with F3A a bunch of years ago now. As far as making the model rotate first and then take off, used to change the main gear set-up to allow it. It was pretty simple really.</DIV>
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<DIV>John, as far as "TO Complete", your Judging Committee had clarified that. You may find the clarification on the website under Judging. </DIV>
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<DIV>MattK</DIV> <BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: John Pavlick <jpavlick@idseng.com><BR>To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:07:04 -0500<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] rookie judge<BR><BR>
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<DIV><SPAN class=260014800-26032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>My understanding of the reason why we now score T.O. and landing as "0" OR "10" was to save time (?) and make the judges job easier (???). Well, last season we spent a lot of time at pilot's meetings talking about how to "0" something that didn't fit the rulebook description. Or when exactly do we call "Takeoff complete"? It was silly. The judges still need to watch the Entire takeoff and landing sequence so again, what's the point. If you wanted to save time on T.O. - don't do the freaking procedure turn. Takeoff, turn 180 downwind, check trim, turn around and get in the box. If you're a judge, assume that if it got into the box it did so while conforming to the "rules". "10" - Done. The procedure turn is cool and it looks great, but it takes more time to do, AND you spend more time in the overlapping region of the other flight line (depending on the wind direction and which line you're on of course). If you're going to go through all of that, then you should at least get a good score for doing it well. Just my opinion.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=260014800-26032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Also funny how now that electric is becoming more popular, we're relaxing the rules about the airplane standing still before the takeoff roll. Pretty soon it won't even matter - well, it will for some of us...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A href="http://www.idseng.com" target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A></FONT> </DIV></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=260014800-26032006> </SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Stuart Chale<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:12 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'NSRCA Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] rookie judge<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes, it definitely took some skill to get the plane to rotate and stay on the ground with the nose gear off the ground before smoothly taking off. Same for the landing with the nose gear up for a bit on rollout.<?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = O /><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyone know the thinking behind 0 to 10? Seems that flying judged on precision would not include a perfect score on a takeoff just jerked into the sky.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>GSailwhale@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:41 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] rookie judge</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If we go back to judging takeoffs and landings, then I can go back to tricycle gear and retracts......cool!!!!!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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