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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>George,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I though it was just me until I came across this on
RCU <A
href="http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=3981146">http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=3981146</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a 25% Extra that has all the white wrinkled
horribly. I'm not great at covering and usually have a friend of mine do the
nice planes for me, but I have never had covering this bad even when I was 11
and getting started in this hobby.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The above link is goes to the retort by Hobbico
customer service.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=geobet@gis.net href="mailto:geobet@gis.net">George Kennie</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 22, 2006
2:39</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Motor
Mount Bonding</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Speaking of Monokote!,............I noticed some irregularities
a couple of planes back, but couldn't really put my finger on anything
specific, thinking it was probably some oversight in my application technique
(too little heat, too much heat?). Then I built an Exceleron and decided to do
a little trim scheme on the wheel pants using Monokote as the trimming agent,
which I had done many times in the past (and I stress MANY).I used regular
Monokote, (not the Trim Strip variety) and cut out my design and ironed it on
and it appeared to be O.K. I set the plane aside and came back a couple
of days later only to find all of the trimming designs lying on the floor
beside the wheel pants. <BR>I have had several instances since then where I
had similar results trying to get the stuff to adhere to any painted surface.
<BR>I just completed a small bird that I costructed quite lightly with the
nose of the aircraft being planked and everything from the T.E. back being
open structure.Due to the fact that I made the canopy out of glass I decided
to paint the forward part of the fuse and film the aft portion. Everything
went pretty much O.K. until I got to the point of trimming. In the areas where
the trim was applied over MonoKote it seemed to be normal, but when the trim
was applied to the painted portion of the fuse I had difficulty making the
stuff stick, and indeed, I have re-ironed it down about 6 or 8 times since
it's original application. I have been toying with the idea of maybe trying to
use some Balsarite under the trim to see if I can get it to stick to the
paint, but have some apprehension about whether the Balsarite might raise
havoc with the paint (Concept). <BR>The other thing that I've noticed is that
it is now much easier to lift Monokote film that you have previously
applied by using a little heat and the stuff comes up easily. In the old days,
if you tried to lift the stuff the color would be left behind and you would
have transparrent cellophane on your hands. <BR>At the Wram's Show, I picked
up a Quest from Eric and I noticed that the covering material being used by
this manufacturer is different than either Mono or Ultra in that it appears to
have a weave structure in the backing. Almost looks like Coverite if you look
at the backside, but the front side is as glossy as Monokote. It's also quite
strong and stretchy if you try to pull it apart. The adhesive appears to be
quite strong as well. It is possible to lift it with the application of heat,
but it leaves significant color stuck to the underlying surface.It appears, to
me, to be a really good quality film, not at all like the old "Chinese Shelf
Paper." Maybe Great Planes would be well served to do a little research?
<BR>Georgie
<P>mike mueller wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"> I've recently switched from using El's mounts
made in Canada to Budd mounts. The weight savings is 3 oz. over the Hyde
type mounts. That's significant in anybody's book. Jerry also has excellent
customer service and responds to emails which is refreshing these days.
Seems to me that he has takin a totally proactive approach to fix a problem.
Now the Monokote people are another story! Mike
<P><B><I>jeffghughes@comcast.net</I></B> wrote:
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like a little bit of a low blow, considering Jerry was trying to make
things right with his customers.
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Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Michael Cohen"
<precisionaero@comcast.net>
<P>> Lets see how much traffic this e-mail generates. Oh well, I was
bored lately <BR>! > anyway..... :) <BR>> <BR>> Mike Cohen
<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Mike
Darr" <MDARR00@COMCAST.NET> <BR>> To: "NSRCA
Discussion" <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG> <BR>> Sent:
Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:53 PM <BR>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion]
Motor Mount Bonding <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Merle Hyde asked me
to post this on the discussion page for him. <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > Subj: Soft Mount Bonding <BR>> > <BR>> > "OH"
really - so the adhesive is the final solution!!!! If the rubber
<BR>> > won't tear or fail first the bond is not sufficient. I
have tested the <BR>> > latest offering and it ca! n also be
pulled apart - peels off like a tougher <BR>> > "lemon"!!!!
Modelers really "NEED" a mount in a 2-20 thousand dollar <BR>> >
aircraft that can and probably will fail!!!! <BR>> > <BR>> >
Approximately 40 rubber fabricators have been contacted to mass produce!
a <BR>> > reliable rubber bond. They will prototype for
$200,000-$300,000 with no <BR>> > guarantees. The genuine Hyde
Mount rubber bond is a 4-6 hour direct labor <BR>> > process -
with a proven life of over 7000 flights. Upon disassembly of <BR>>
> high time genuine Hyde Mounts it appears the bond would likely
remain <BR>> > reliable for 14,000 flights or equal to the
expected rubber life!!!! <BR>> > <BR>> > Hyde Mounts are so
reliable that even the severe cantilever force loads <BR>> >
imposed upon the rubber bonding of NO NOSE RING required Hyde Mounts
have <BR>> > been proven to endure thousands of flights without
pull apart or f! ailure. <BR>> > <BR>> > Some have
experienced problems and beam breakage with undrilled nylon <BR>>
> composite beam Hyde Mounts offered several years ago. Modelers
often did <BR>> > not drill or install blinds nuts per suggestions
provided. Hyde Mount <BR>> > n! ylon <BR>> > beams when
properly drilled are designed to break at around 100 lbs. force <BR>>
> load - or at around 50G's for a 2 lb. engine - aircraft snap at
around <BR>> > 15-18 <BR>> > Gs. Hyde Mounts now with
pre-drilled beams and blind nuts installed have <BR>> > only been
reported to break when crashed or impacted. The deliberate 100 <BR>>
> lbs. force breakage point often prevents more severe damage to the
<BR>> > engine/crankshaft/firewall/aircraft/mount. <BR>> >
<BR>> > Salvage your hardware investment: Reliable rubber bonding
service <BR>> > available for the "do-it-yourself" mount builder
or other brands. Simply <BR>> > send your preferred hardware parts
and rubber to: Merle Hyde ! <BR>> > <BR>> >
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> <BR>> > Thanks - Merle <BR>> > <BR>> >
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