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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Dave: Ill be making a treck too Muncie
this year and would like to stop in Tulsa for a few practice flights if
possible. What fields are available to do this. Lynn and
Ralph Depalma</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=K6XYZ@valornet.com href="mailto:K6XYZ@valornet.com">Dave Harmon</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A> ; <A
title=geobet@gis.net href="mailto:geobet@gis.net">geobet@gis.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:38
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
monokote</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><st1:GivenName><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Pete</SPAN></FONT></st1:GivenName><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">….that’s
exactly what happened to me over 2 years ago…..I was pretty disappointed to
say the least!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; mso-no-proof: yes">Regards<BR><BR>Dave
Harmon<BR>NSRCA 586<BR>K6XYZ[at]valornet[dot]com<BR>Broken Arrow,
Ok.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=blue><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; mso-no-proof: yes"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B></SPAN></FONT><st2:PersonName><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Pete
Cosky</SPAN></FONT></st2:PersonName><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:59
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><st2:PersonName><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><A
href="mailto:geobet@gis.net">geobet@gis.net</A></SPAN></FONT></st2:PersonName><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">; NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[NSRCA-discussion] monokote</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">George,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I though it was just me until I
came across this on RCU <A
href="http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=3981146">http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=3981146</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have a 25% Extra that has all
the white wrinkled horribly. I'm not great at covering and usually have a
friend of mine do the nice planes for me, but I have never had covering this
bad even when I was 11 and getting started in this
hobby.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The above link is goes to the
retort by Hobbico customer service.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=geobet@gis.net href="mailto:geobet@gis.net">George Kennie</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:39<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Motor Mount Bonding<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Speaking of Monokote!,............I
noticed some irregularities a couple of planes back, but couldn't really put
my finger on anything specific, thinking it was probably some oversight in
my application technique (too little heat, too much heat?). Then I built an
Exceleron and decided to do a little trim scheme on the wheel pants using
Monokote as the trimming agent, which I had done many times in the past (and
I stress MANY).I used regular Monokote, (not the Trim Strip variety) and cut
out my design and ironed it on and it appeared to be O.K. I set the
plane aside and came back a couple of days later only to find all of the
trimming designs lying on the floor beside the wheel pants. <BR>I have had
several instances since then where I had similar results trying to get the
stuff to adhere to any painted surface. <BR>I just completed a small bird
that I costructed quite lightly with the nose of the aircraft being planked
and everything from the T.E. back being open structure.Due to the fact that
I made the canopy out of glass I decided to paint the forward part of the
fuse and film the aft portion. Everything went pretty much O.K. until I got
to the point of trimming. In the areas where the trim was applied over
MonoKote it seemed to be normal, but when the trim was applied to the
painted portion of the fuse I had difficulty making the stuff stick, and
indeed, I have re-ironed it down about 6 or 8 times since it's original
application. I have been toying with the idea of maybe trying to use some
Balsarite under the trim to see if I can get it to stick to the paint, but
have some apprehension about whether the Balsarite might raise havoc with
the paint (Concept). <BR>The other thing that I've noticed is that it is now
much easier to lift Monokote film that you have previously applied by
using a little heat and the stuff comes up easily. In the old days, if you
tried to lift the stuff the color would be left behind and you would have
transparrent cellophane on your hands. <BR>At the Wram's Show, I picked up a
Quest from Eric and I noticed that the covering material being used by this
manufacturer is different than either Mono or Ultra in that it appears to
have a weave structure in the backing. Almost looks like Coverite if you
look at the backside, but the front side is as glossy as Monokote. It's also
quite strong and stretchy if you try to pull it apart. The adhesive appears
to be quite strong as well. It is possible to lift it with the application
of heat, but it leaves significant color stuck to the underlying surface.It
appears, to me, to be a really good quality film, not at all like the old
"Chinese Shelf Paper." Maybe Great Planes would be well served to do a
little research? <BR>Georgie <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">mike mueller wrote: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> I've recently switched from
using El's mounts made in Canada to Budd mounts. The weight savings is 3
oz. over the Hyde type mounts. That's significant in anybody's book. Jerry
also has excellent customer service and responds to emails which is
refreshing these days. Seems to me that he has takin a totally proactive
approach to fix a problem. Now the Monokote people are another story! Mike
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><I><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-STYLE: italic">jeffghughes@comcast.net</SPAN></FONT></I></B>
wrote: <o:p></o:p></P>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Seems like a
little bit of a low blow, considering Jerry was trying to make things
right with his customers. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-------------- Original message --------------
<BR>From: "Michael Cohen" <precisionaero@comcast.net>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> Lets see how much traffic this e-mail
generates. Oh well, I was bored lately <BR>! > anyway..... :)
<BR>> <BR>> Mike Cohen <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message
----- <BR>> From: "Mike Darr" <MDARR00@COMCAST.NET> <BR>> To:
"NSRCA Discussion" <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG> <BR>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:53 PM <BR>> Subject:
[NSRCA-discussion] Motor Mount Bonding <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >
Merle Hyde asked me to post this on the discussion page for him.
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Subj: Soft Mount Bonding
<BR>> > <BR>> > "OH" really - so the adhesive is the final
solution!!!! If the rubber <BR>> > won't tear or fail first the
bond is not sufficient. I have tested the <BR>> > latest offering
and it ca! n also be pulled apart - peels off like a tougher <BR>>
> "lemon"!!!! Modelers really "NEED" a mount in a 2-20 thousand
dollar <BR>> > aircraft that can and probably will fail!!!!
<BR>> > <BR>> > Approximately 40 rubber fabricators have
been contacted to mass produce! a <BR>> > reliable rubber bond.
They will prototype for $200,000-$300,000 with no <BR>> >
guarantees. The genuine Hyde Mount rubber bond is a 4-6 hour direct
labor <BR>> > process - with a proven life of over 7000 flights.
Upon disassembly of <BR>> > high time genuine Hyde Mounts it
appears the bond would likely remain <BR>> > reliable for 14,000
flights or equal to the expected rubber life!!!! <BR>> > <BR>>
> Hyde Mounts are so reliable that even the severe cantilever force
loads <BR>> > imposed upon the rubber bonding of NO NOSE RING
required Hyde Mounts have <BR>> > been proven to endure thousands
of flights without pull apart or f! ailure. <BR>> > <BR>> >
Some have experienced problems and beam breakage with undrilled nylon
<BR>> > composite beam Hyde Mounts offered several years ago.
Modelers often did <BR>> > not drill or install blinds nuts per
suggestions provided. Hyde Mount <BR>> > n! ylon <BR>> >
beams when properly drilled are designed to break at around 100 lbs.
force <BR>> > load - or at around 50G's for a 2 lb. engine -
aircraft snap at around <BR>> > 15-18 <BR>> > Gs. Hyde
Mounts now with pre-drilled beams and blind nuts installed have <BR>>
> only been reported to break when crashed or impacted. The
deliberate 100 <BR>> > lbs. force breakage point often prevents
more severe damage to the <BR>> >
engine/crankshaft/firewall/aircraft/mount. <BR>> > <BR>> >
Salvage your hardware investment: Reliable rubber bonding service
<BR>> > available for the "do-it-yourself" mount builder or other
brands. Simply <BR>> > send your preferred hardware parts and
rubber to: Merle Hyde ! <BR>> > <BR>> >
-------------------------------------------------------------- <BR>>
> <BR>> > Thanks - Merle <BR>> > <BR>> >
_______________________________________________ <BR>> >
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