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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Something not mentioned yet.......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you solder the wires to the pins,more than
likely you will also solder the latch strip that holds the pin in the
plug,and the pin won't stay in the plug. The latch strip is on the opposite
side from the crimp. Solder is not a good idea on the pins.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Soldering pins into a cup on the rear of a
pin is an art. In the "60's to pass the NASA soldering school you had to be able
to make a 50 pin soldered plug with no more than 10% wicked wires.The solder
cannot leave the pot(wick) that the wire is in. Done correctly the wire won't
break due to vibration. Todays production aircraft do use crimped pins in the
plugs. They are quicker and safer from breaking due to vibration.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>my 2c</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim Ivey</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 18, 2006 5:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help:
Servo pins pulled out of connector body</DIV>
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<DIV>The problem is solder wicking. Solder *can* wick up the wire, and where
the solder stops is where vibration can cause the conductors to break.</DIV>
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<DIV>Having said that, I never had a problem using the old Deans connectors on
all my Proline and Ace radios. However, I always used heat shrink tubing to
strain relieve the wires.</DIV>
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<DIV>A properly done crimp is more than sufficient, and I have always heard is
more reliable than soldered. I don't, however, have any experience to that
effect.</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob R.<BR><BR><B><I>Anne et Xavier
<xavier.mouraux@sympatico.ca></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=031462715-18032006>Full size aircraft don't use soldering I believe. I
know we don't at Bombardier. It has so! mething to do with
vibration.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=031462715-18032006>Xavier</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>John
Ferrell<BR><B>Sent:</B> March 18, 2006 10:23 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help: Servo pins
pulled out of connector body<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I disagree with soldering a crimp. If done
properly the crimped connection ALONE is the most reliable and durable
connection.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell <BR><A
href="http://dixienc.us/">http://DixieNC.US</A><BR></DIV>
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<A title=d_bodary@yahoo.com href="mailto:d_bodary@yahoo.com">Dennis
Bodary</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:28
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Help: Servo pins pulled out of connector body</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Servo city sells the pins and the connectors for 75 cents
to like 2 bucks depending on which ones you want. The crimpers will
probably cost you 25 bucks. they are a w crimp. ! you do not want to use
regular crimpers. After you crimp them you will want to solder also. use
the smallest diameter solder you can find. you just need a tiny tiny
amount. you won't be able to use heat shrink due to the heat shrink not
fitting in the connector.<BR><BR><B><I>paul
<paul.horan@sbcglobal.net></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I have not pulled the
servos apart to check the gears. The reason I think they are ok
is that when the plane went in the engine was dead, the speed was
fairly low, the the smaller branches of the tree furthe! r reduced the
speed and finally the plane hit a fork that cleanly stripped the wings
away. The servos, ailerons, linkage all looked good.
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<DIV><FONT size=2 ace="Arial" f!>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paul</FONT></DIV>
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Alt</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 13, 2006
9:38 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Help: Servo pins pulled out of connector body</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paul:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The soldering trick works fine, as long
as you don't get a cold joint. I try to avoid! it only because
the area near where the solder stops wicking into the wire tends to
be a point of stress concentration for the wire strands, but as long
as you extend the heat shrink about 1/4" past the point where the
wire gets 'bendy' again, it supports it and prevents the work
hardening of the wire from becoming a problem. I might be a
bit nervous about those servos though - how do the gears look?
I've had incidents where just a tiny sliver of a gear tooth was
chipped away and lead to further problems.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=paul.horan@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:paul.horan@sbcglobal.net">paul</A> ! </DIV>
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10:29 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Sounds like I can
either get the kit and crimper from Maxx or cut the connector ends
off defunct servos / extentions and solder them to the existing
servo wires - using heat shrink to keep any flexing away from the
solder joints. Any preference ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Ari! size=2 al>Paul</FONT></DIV>
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Alt</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 13,
2006 9:24 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Help: Servo pins pulled out of connector
body</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paul:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Better off to replace the entire
connector and pins. Most likely the plastic housing was
damaged from the pin pulling out. Also, the! wire had to
get strained where it is clasped by the crimp pins. Maxx
Products sells connector kits, but you need a crimper
tool. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=paul.horan@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:paul.horan@sbcglobal.net">paul</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 13,
2006 10:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B>
[NSRCA-discussion] Help: Servo pins pulled out of connector
body</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><DIV!><FONT face=Arial
size=2> I strained my Meridian through a
tree, wrecked the plane but the equipment appears OK with the
exception of both aileron servo! s. When the wings came
off the servo connector body stayed in the fuse and the servos
wires and pins went with the wings.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> My question is : can
I simply re-insert the servo pins in another connector body (taken
from defuct servos or extentions) ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paul</FONT></DIV>
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