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<DIV><FONT size=3>Did this many years ago. Had a Kraft Gold Medal series 6
channel with the chrome cup sticks on 27mhz. The first Ace Silver 7 parts to
come out were made to fit into an existing transmitter. At the WRAMS show
I purchased the kit and installed it in that old Kraft, dual rates, end point
adjustments, AM 72mhz RF board, Ace 7 channel AM dual conversion RX,
exponential, snap button, etc. Sold the TX and RX some years ago to a flyer in
NJ. Built my share of Heathkit radios, 1 complete Silver 7 and
Controlaire servos. IMO you'd be hard pressed today to build something as
feature rich and comfortable as what is commercially available from Futaba, JR
and Airtronics.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Ed M. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jpavlick@idseng.com href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">John
Pavlick</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=emorydmd@earthlink.net
href="mailto:emorydmd@earthlink.net">Emory Schroeter</A> ; <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:55
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking
for a Proline Tx with Chidgey sticks</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=470004702-15032006>Emory,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=470004702-15032006>These guys are out of control. Well, at
least I know Ed is and I suspect that Gordon is too although I have
not met him personally. Don't try this at home... OK, if you must know,
they're building transmitters with custom encoder modules. Basically a
"computer" transmitter built out of the old (high-quality - not cheap plastic)
guts combined with a micro-controller based encoder. Lots of fun!!! I
guess I have to build one now too. Check out Gordon's site - lots of cool
stuff: <A
href="http://www.mstar2k.com/">www.mstar2k.com</A> .</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=470004702-15032006>
<P><FONT size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A href="http://www.idseng.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A><BR> </FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Emory
Schroeter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a
Proline Tx with Chidgey sticks<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Alright. My interest is peaked, but I have no clue what you guys are
doing to these Proline transmitters. For those of us that may be
electronically challenged, what modifications are you floks making???</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks, Emory</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=GAA@owt.com href="mailto:GAA@owt.com">Gordon Anderson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:33
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Looking for a Proline Tx with Chidgey sticks</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=110462502-15032006>Ed,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=110462502-15032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=110462502-15032006>6.8K SIPs will work
fine. I used 10K but these are just pull up resistors so 6.8K will work
fine. The source code is available, I have been sending it out on a
request basis but I will post it on the web site soon. Regarding the
receiver; the MC13111 is indeed discontinued but I have 250 of these parts
in stock. I did a life time buy as they were going out of production. This
is a great part, a one chip synthesized receiver chip, perfect for a RC
receiver. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=110462502-15032006>I too build a
heathkit RC system with my dad years a go, indeed the good old days!
Growing up with single channel escapement systems and reeds is what
captured by interest in electronics, remember the Digitrio systems? I have
all the documentation and a complete system.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=110462502-15032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=110462502-15032006>--Gordon</SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed
Alt<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:06 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a
Proline Tx with Chidgey sticks<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Hi Gordon:</DIV>
<DIV>I've been a lurker on the MP8K list for a while and finally decided
to build the mstar 2K yesterday. I'm just about done except I have to get
replacements for the resistor networks, having 8 pin SIPs instead of 9 pin
- whoops! Those are 6.8K, correct? Other than that, I haven't run
into any snags yet, but I will definitely take you up on your kind offer
to assist if needed.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I thought I saw something about source becoming available for the
MP8K, but I didn't realize the mstar 2K would be open source - very
interesting. Looking forward to the upgrade as well. Re. the
PulseStar receiver, that looked really interesting too. Did the
MC13111 really get discontinued? It's a shame if so. I have to
say, the projects you have done are really admirable. It's great to
see this kind of project still available these days. I built a
Heathkit GD-19 when I was a kid, when it was still fairly common for
hobbyists to build their own stuff, including servo kits from World
Engines etc. That Heathkit still works, KPS-9 servos and
all and I flew with it right up until the mid 80's, though I did
eventually replace the receiver with an Ace Silver 7. The good old
days...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
<DIV>Ed</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=GAA@owt.com href="mailto:GAA@owt.com">Gordon Anderson</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 13, 2006 10:52
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Looking for a Proline Tx with Chidgey sticks</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=101514003-14032006>Ed,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=101514003-14032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=101514003-14032006>Thanks for the
interest in my Encoder. The Proline transmitters are getting hard to
find, the last one I picked up was at Northwest Model Expo. I'm sure you
are aware of my web site, <A
href="http://www.mstar2k.com">www.mstar2k.com</A>, you can find all the
technical data on this site. I'm happy to help you with this project.
Electronics is my second hobby and my projects open to the public
through my web site. I would estimate about 50 to 70 systems have been
built to date. This is the only "open source" design
available.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=101514003-14032006>I will be
designing a next generation encoder using the PIC18F8722. This encoder
will be smaller but it will be next fall before it is complete. This
version will have digital or analog trim options as well as other
upgrades. Again, thanks for your interest and good luck with your
project.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101514003-14032006>--Gordon</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=101514003-14032006></SPAN>B<SPAN
class=101514003-14032006>TW; I'm a licensed Radio Amateur (KG7YU) and
all my home built electronics are on the HAM bands.</SPAN><BR></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed
Alt<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 13, 2006 7:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion]
Looking for a Proline Tx with Chidgey sticks<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>I'm looking to buy a ProLine 2 stick transmitter for an update
project I'm doing. I'm building a Gordon Anderson Microstar 2000
encoder and was originally going to fit it into a Kraft Tx, but the fit
is fairly tight and the open Gimbal Kraft sticks just aren't as good as
the Chidgey sticks were. The ProLine was taller and everything
ought to fit better. I can make the Kraft conversion work, but the
ProLine approach is much more appealing. Anyone know of a source
for one? Tired of trolling eBay...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ed</DIV>
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