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<DIV><SPAN class=910035404-15032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Ron,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=910035404-15032006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> Well at risk of dating myself (and I'm not very old) I remember
when the "new" Futaba 7FG-K came out. It had DUAL RATES - Wow! I had to
have one. Actually I still have it. I had it narrow-banded and it's still a
nice solid radio even though it's AM. Funny how we don't flip switches anymore,
but back then it was "high tech". Actually, I think Ed has something really cool
in mind. Stay tuned...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=910035404-15032006><FONT size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com/"
target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A><BR> </FONT> </DIV></SPAN>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ron Van
Putte<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:05 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a Proline
Tx with Chidgey sticks<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<DIV>On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:55 PM, John Pavlick wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=470004702-15032006>These guys are out of control. Well, at
least I know Ed is and I suspect that Gordon is too although I
have not met him personally. Don't try this at home... OK, if you must know,
they're building transmitters with custom encoder modules. Basically a
"computer" transmitter built out of the old (high-quality - not cheap
plastic) guts combined with a micro-controller based encoder. Lots of
fun!!! I guess I have to build one now too. Check out Gordon's site - lots
of cool stuff: <A
href="http://www.mstar2k.com/">www.mstar2k.com</A> .</SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>I don't want to start up another
maudlin nostalgia thread, but I remember when Jim Oddino published the
technique for installing dual rates in a transmitters in his R/C Modeler
column. Yes, kiddies, there were times when even the top-of-the-line
transmitters didn't have dual rate switches. I'm no electronic genius,
but I bought the parts and did the installation of dual rate elevator and
aileron switches in a Kraft KP-7Z transmitter. They worked great
and I can still remember the amazed eyes of my club members when I
demonstrated how they worked.</DIV>
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<DIV>Ron Van Putte<BR>
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face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Emory Schroeter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:41
PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a Proline Tx with Chidgey
sticks<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Alright. My interest is peaked, but I have no clue what you guys are
doing to these Proline transmitters. For those of us that may be
electronically challenged, what modifications are you floks
making???</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks, Emory</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=GAA@owt.com href="mailto:GAA@owt.com">Gordon Anderson</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:33
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Looking for a Proline Tx with Chidgey sticks</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=110462502-15032006>Ed,</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=110462502-15032006>6.8K SIPs will
work fine. I used 10K but these are just pull up resistors so 6.8K will
work fine. The source code is available, I have been sending it out on a
request basis but I will post it on the web site soon. Regarding the
receiver; the MC13111 is indeed discontinued but I have 250 of these
parts in stock. I did a life time buy as they were going out of
production. This is a great part, a one chip synthesized receiver chip,
perfect for a RC receiver. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=110462502-15032006>I too build a
heathkit RC system with my dad years a go, indeed the good old days!
Growing up with single channel escapement systems and reeds is what
captured by interest in electronics, remember the Digitrio systems? I
have all the documentation and a complete system.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=110462502-15032006>--Gordon</SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed Alt<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:06
AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a Proline Tx with Chidgey
sticks<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Gordon:</DIV>
<DIV>I've been a lurker on the MP8K list for a while and finally decided
to build the mstar 2K yesterday. I'm just about done except I have to
get replacements for the resistor networks, having 8 pin SIPs instead of
9 pin - whoops! Those are 6.8K, correct? Other than that, I
haven't run into any snags yet, but I will definitely take you up on
your kind offer to assist if needed.</DIV>
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<DIV>I thought I saw something about source becoming available for the
MP8K, but I didn't realize the mstar 2K would be open source - very
interesting. Looking forward to the upgrade as well. Re. the
PulseStar receiver, that looked really interesting too. Did the
MC13111 really get discontinued? It's a shame if so. I have
to say, the projects you have done are really admirable. It's
great to see this kind of project still available these days. I
built a Heathkit GD-19 when I was a kid, when it was still fairly common
for hobbyists to build their own stuff, including servo kits from World
Engines etc. That Heathkit still works, KPS-9 servos and
all and I flew with it right up until the mid 80's, though I did
eventually replace the receiver with an Ace Silver 7. The good old
days...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
<DIV>Ed</DIV>
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<DIV
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<A title=GAA@owt.com href="mailto:GAA@owt.com">Gordon Anderson</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing
List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 13, 2006
10:52 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Looking for a Proline Tx with Chidgey sticks</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=101514003-14032006>Ed,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=101514003-14032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=101514003-14032006>Thanks for the
interest in my Encoder. The Proline transmitters are getting hard to
find, the last one I picked up was at Northwest Model Expo. I'm sure
you are aware of my web site, <A
href="http://www.mstar2k.com">www.mstar2k.com</A>, you can find all
the technical data on this site. I'm happy to help you with this
project. Electronics is my second hobby and my projects open to the
public through my web site. I would estimate about 50 to 70 systems
have been built to date. This is the only "open source" design
available.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=101514003-14032006>I will be
designing a next generation encoder using the PIC18F8722. This encoder
will be smaller but it will be next fall before it is complete. This
version will have digital or analog trim options as well as other
upgrades. Again, thanks for your interest and good luck with your
project.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=101514003-14032006>--Gordon</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=101514003-14032006></SPAN>B<SPAN
class=101514003-14032006>TW; I'm a licensed Radio Amateur (KG7YU) and
all my home built electronics are on the HAM bands.</SPAN><BR></DIV>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed Alt<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 13, 2006 7:30
PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
[NSRCA-discussion] Looking for a Proline Tx with Chidgey
sticks<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I'm looking to buy a ProLine 2 stick transmitter for an update
project I'm doing. I'm building a Gordon Anderson Microstar 2000
encoder and was originally going to fit it into a Kraft Tx, but the
fit is fairly tight and the open Gimbal Kraft sticks just aren't as
good as the Chidgey sticks were. The ProLine was taller and
everything ought to fit better. I can make the Kraft conversion
work, but the ProLine approach is much more appealing. Anyone
know of a source for one? Tired of trolling eBay...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
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<DIV>Ed</DIV>
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