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<DIV>You two should get a room!!!</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 03, 2006 7:47
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Noise -
Overfly - andDifferentAerobaticModelTypes</DIV>
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<DIV>Dean</DIV>
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<DIV>Your scribbles, in any amount, are always welcome.</DIV>
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<DIV>Matt</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 3/3/2006 1:08:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, <A
href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">d.pappas@kodeos.com</A> writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Hi Marguerite,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>There is no saint like a reformed
sinner! Yes, up until twenty-four, or so, years ago, Pattern planes
were the third loudest planes in Aeromodelling.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>We came after the Pylon and CL
Speed guys, including the pulse-jet Speed guys. Now, we are the
quietest, save for the electric events and gliders.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Heavens yes, we have the moral high
ground, and all the rest are miserable sinners! Yes, I am being sarcastic,
but the point is useful: we need to help</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>everyone else in the hobby. Of course,
some are reluctant to be helped: the worst heckler I ever had in giving my
"how to get quiet" speech at a</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>club meeting was from the club President
at a site that was largely IMAA-centric. Political correctness makes it easy
to mistake the truth for </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>"somebody-else-bashing". This is a trap
we need to avoid: plain talk is necessary. (yes the pun was
intentional)</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Generally, my friends in IMAC suffer
from a terrible noise cullture.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Part of the WOW factor is the doppler
shift of the transonic prop tip noise: Waaaaaaaaoooooowwwww!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Just accept that that is the way it is,
otherwise you can never affect it.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>The biggest component in getting quiet
enough to be good neighbors is the </SPAN><SPAN
class=778041916-03032006>shift in culture.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>One of the previous writers described
his club's good results as a result of a well managed culture
change.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Another described just the opposite. I
apologize for not remembering who wrote those notes.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Fortunately, competitors are somewhat
easier to "herd" into a new culture, as a result of a strong group
identity.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>Clubs often generate this strong sense
of identity, after the noise complaints start.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=778041916-03032006>now I'll contribute to the quiet ...
shutting up:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
class=778041916-03032006>
Dean</SPAN></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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