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I don't feel that the rolling loop involves the same degree of difficulty
as the circle. When you do the circle, and especially when there is a roll
reversal required, the skill required to preserve arc geometry, altitude,
roll rate, and corrective inputs is greater than the same requirements
when incorporated into the loop. The loop is performed closer and is easier
to see and can be performed also very large making required corrections
more visible.There is also the ability to utilize the gravity assist which
you can employ to slow the up-side and allow to assist some of your control
inputs on the backside.
<BR>It is also possible to do the circle much smaller than currently being
done, however, control input requirements become much quicker and more
extreme and it's much easier to get behind which is why you see them being
performed so large,........it's just to slow things down enough to keep
up with the compensation requirements. It requires a lot of repetitive
exercise to train the brain's ability to accomodate the compensatory acceleration
requirement to execute the smaller geometric form.
<BR>Try a few and you'll see what I mean.
<BR>Georgie
<P>Dean Pappas wrote:
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<SPAN class=090044414-03032006><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT SIZE=-1>I
have suggested it, back before the new year, and I'll do it again.</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=090044414-03032006><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT COLOR="#0000FF"><FONT SIZE=-1>Dean</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> <FONT FACE="Times New Roman">Dean
Pappas</FONT>
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<FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Dean / Bob</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>You're
both right on regarding noise footprint. Probably the biggest issue with
the large gassers, and not necessarily IMAC.<SPAN class=090044414-03032006><FONT COLOR="#0000FF">
...</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Along
comes a competition flyer practicing rollers and he becomes the example
that the distance is OK, and enforcement becomes even more difficult.
I agree that rollers are neat maneuvers and that they simply don't fit
within the "smaller footprint" concept. Dean, I like your proposal that
they be replaced with rolling loops - keeps the complexity and solves the
distance problem. Have you suggested this to Bob Skinner (F3A Subcommittee
Chair)? We're our own worst enemy - rollers can be flown much tighter,
but no one does that - no wow factor! My alerts that the pattern rules
don't provide a distance exception for rollers only resulted in a quasi
exception.</FONT></FONT> <FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT SIZE=-1>Earl</FONT></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
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