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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For all practical purposes, Scale Aerobatics has no
box anymore. It exists as an abstract concept on a piece of paper in that
it has a defined height, width and depth, but since they eliminated the 75
degree markers, there is nothing left to measure it against. Additionally,
they eliminated the concept of zones, so you are free to place things where it
seems good to place them, i.e., a figure that would appear to be meant for the
center of the box doesn't have to be flown directly in front of you. Your
choice of placement has some kind of connection to the so-called Presentation
Score as it was originally 'defined'. There are no deductions for
centering inaccuracy. Once you enter the box, you still need to get
figures in the correct order and direction, though cross box figures leave
direction (in or out) to the discretion of the pilot. Currently, there may
or may not be enforcement of a pure impressionist extra figure known as the
Presentation Score. It passed as a rule, then everyone was instructed by
the IMAC BOD not to follow the AMA rule they pushed through. I heard
rumblings that maybe they are going to allow or encourage CDs to follow that
rule again. Not sure, I don't really track what they do very closely
anymore.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=randy10926@comtekmail.com
href="mailto:randy10926@comtekmail.com">Glenn Hatfield</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 02, 2006 4:21
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs
Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points made?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P><FONT style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">You can fly low slow and close in if you
desire. The box that you fly in is smaller for pattern than
IMAC. You get too close in and the box gets really small.
The box is about the right size for a 2 meter at 150 to 170 Meters parallel to
the flight line. You might be able to fly a 50 sized at 125 to 150
meters. At least I do.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif"
size=2>Randy<BR> <BR>--- "Jay Marshall" <lightfoot@sc.rr.com>
wrote:<BR> <BR><B>From:</B> "Jay Marshall"
<lightfoot@sc.rr.com><BR><B>Date:</B> Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:51:24
-0500<BR><B>To:</B> "'NSRCA Mailing List'"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points
made?<BR><BR></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m new and saw my
first contests last year. My first impression was “Why do they fly so high?”
Then I wondered what would happen if I flew low, slow and close in with <SPAN
class=GramE>a</SPAN> Oxalys 50? <SPAN class=GramE>Still
wondering.</SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>mike mueller<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, March 02, 2006 2:14
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing
List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points
made?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> You know what, Keith is right. We
have a really good flyer that comes to one of our contests about once a year.
He flys his whole sequence right off the deck like a bat out of hell. He's
really good and can pull it off. The deal excites everyone. It's a blast to
watch. <BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Keith
Black <tkeithb@comcast.net></SPAN></I></B> wrote:
<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Reading the comments here brings
the following to my attention.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Loud "ballistic missile" pattern =
Huge popularity.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Quite graceful pattern flying 150
m away = Boring.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Huge Loud IMAC planes flying 3D =
Huge popularity.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </D! IV>
<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I bet if we add an "Extreme
Pattern" class where we do high slow rolls and snaps ten feed off the deck
right over the runway we'd become much more popular again.
;-)</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Keith
Black</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com" target=_blank>Bob
Richards</A> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank>NSRCA Mailing
List</A> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Thursday, Ma! rch 02, 2006 8:55 AM<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points
made?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Larry,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Good
points.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">A little history, as best as I can
remember it. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">At one time, Pattern was the top of the
heap. I remember the first RC Modeler magazine I bought (circa 1972) had
coverage of the Masters competition. RC Modeler carried coverage of the
large pattern contests back then. At some point (I don't remember when,
exactly) RCM (aka Don Dewey) became ticked off at the AMA because AMA chose
to publish their own magazine. This happened when American Aircraft Modeler
magazine went out of business, they had been publishing the AMA News in the
back of their magazine. It seemed to me that RCM no longer covered pattern
events after that. There was a big push by RCM to promote the "Sport Flyers
Associat! ion", anything AMA sanctioned was left out. (This was my
observation).<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Along came the TOC, which actually
started out with pattern models. Again, t! here was coverage. But, then the
TOC went the scale aerobatics route (and extra points for biplanes, and
extra points for mammoth planes -- the rest is
history).<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Pattern is no longer the premiere event
that it used to be. I think it all goes back to the WOW factor. There also
seemed to be a period where pattern flyers were looked down upon, usually
labeled "snobs". Thank goodnes that does not seem to be the case
anymore.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I think the change from loud, ballistic
missle type flying to the turnaround style now has changed the general
modeling perception, although it took several years for the general modeling
public to recognize the change. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">However, the turnaround format seems to
have had both a positive and negati! ve effect. The general modeling public
respects pattern more as a result, but it also SEEMS to be a barrier for new
participants. Again, this is just my
opinion.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </D! iv>
<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Bob
R.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Lisa & Larry
<lld613@psci.net></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Eric
Henderson wrote****</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> If we knew why we could
probably fix it.<FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy">
****<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From
my viewpoint trying to get into pattern around 1999 was a major
challenge.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV al>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I
was first introduced to Pattern in <ST1:PLACE u1:st="on">Southern
California</ST1:PLACE> in 1985 when I went to watch a contest. It took
another 15 years to have the time and money to do it. For me lack of time
was because of my service in the US Navy. Difficult to fly when your out
at sea and they don’t fit too well in a locker on the
ship…vbg<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV><! FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">! It
took me from 1999 to 2002 to find somebody that new what pattern was.
Everyone new IMAC and could point me to a pilot that competed, but not
Pattern.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What
does this mean? Either I’m not a very smart cookie or Pattern is a very
well kept secret (not much has changed since 1999). So how is it that a
person that new pattern existed took the better part of 4 years to finally
talk to someone that could help get
started?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-S: 10pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Over the last
seven years we watched IMAC ARF’s take off and sell like hot cakes, only
in the last couple years have we seen Pattern ARF’s on the
market.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></SPAN>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I
went to an RC Airshow north of <ST1:PLACE u1:st="on"><ST1:CITY
u1:st="on">Bloomington</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE
u1:st="on">IN</ST1:STATE></ST1:PLACE> around the spring of 2002. I watched
a pilot fly an Extra for an! IMAC Sportsman Class Demo. I approached him
and asked him about Pattern and how to get started. His response was
clear, “Why would you want to fly a toy model plane when you can fly a
model of a real plane and do the same thing!” Aside from an instant turn
off from IMAC, it ! set the tone of perception between IMAC and Pattern. I
will most likely start competing in IMAC this year as well as pattern.
Mostly because there are more IMAC contests in a 5 hour drive than there
are pattern from where I’m located.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If
you compare IMAC and Pattern I don’t think the dog hunts in most of the
arguments I’ve seen posted in the last few years as they reappear from
time to time. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">1)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IMAC
and Pattern planes compare in cost. (That dog won’t hunt on this
point)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-li: Ignore"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">2)<FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2)</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: navy">
</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IMAC and Pattern
take the same ! amount of practice time to be competitive in a given
class. (That dog won’t hunt on this
point)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">3)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IMAC
and Pattern meets are relatively the same driving distance for most. (That
dog won’t hunt! on this point)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">4)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I
can find more IMAC contests than Pattern contests (Dog might be tracking
something on this one)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">5)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sport pilots know
more about IMAC than they do pattern, this is speculative but I believe
it’s the case. (Dog might be tracking something on this
one)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We
need to do a better job marketing Pattern. I think that IMAC has done
great in this area. The TOC helped IMAC grow and get the word out through
coverage of a big event. I think we can see a decline in IMAC since the
last TOC. I have not seen or heard of a big contest that gets the
publicity that the TOC received. Even the FAI World Pattern contest is not
covered! as well as the TOC was.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How
do you guys view these points?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Larry
Diamond<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">NSRCA
3083<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">PS…What Eric does
for Pattern in his reporting to magazines is probably one of the key
factors that he! lps pattern stay afloat. Thanks
Eric….<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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