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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The strongest control is the neighbors
closing down the site.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bill Glaze<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 02, 2006
4:59 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points made?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ed:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I'll tell you of the latest
iteration/interpretation when I get back from Florida. I'm sure it will
be interesting. It is amazing and a little more than baffling to me that,
with the loudest airplanes in modeling, there is somewhere between little or no
effort to control the noise footprint.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Bill Glaze</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com" title="ed_alt@hotmail.com">Ed Alt</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:randy10926@comtekmail.com" title="randy10926@comtekmail.com">randy10926@comtekmail.com</a>
; <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday,
March 02, 2006 4:48 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points
made?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>For all practical purposes, Scale
Aerobatics has no box anymore. It exists as an abstract concept on a
piece of paper in that it has a defined height, width and depth, but since they
eliminated the 75 degree markers, there is nothing left to measure it
against. Additionally, they eliminated the concept of zones, so you are
free to place things where it seems good to place them, i.e., a figure that
would appear to be meant for the center of the box doesn't have to be flown
directly in front of you. Your choice of placement has some kind of
connection to the so-called Presentation Score as it was originally
'defined'. There are no deductions for centering inaccuracy.
Once you enter the box, you still need to get figures in the correct order and
direction, though cross box figures leave direction (in or out) to the
discretion of the pilot. Currently, there may or may not be enforcement
of a pure impressionist extra figure known as the Presentation
Score. It passed as a rule, then everyone was instructed by the IMAC BOD
not to follow the AMA rule they pushed through. I heard rumblings that
maybe they are going to allow or encourage CDs to follow that rule again.
Not sure, I don't really track what they do very closely anymore.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ed</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:randy10926@comtekmail.com" title="randy10926@comtekmail.com">Glenn
Hatfield</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday,
March 02, 2006 4:21 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points
made?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>You can fly low slow and close in if you
desire. The box that you fly in is smaller for pattern than
IMAC. You get too close in and the box gets really small. The
box is about the right size for a 2 meter at 150 to 170 Meters parallel to the
flight line. You might be able to fly a 50 sized at 125 to 150 meters.
At least I do.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;
margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Randy<br>
<br>
--- "Jay Marshall" <lightfoot@sc.rr.com> wrote:<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> "Jay Marshall"
<lightfoot@sc.rr.com><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Date:</span></b> Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:51:24
-0500<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> "'NSRCA Mailing
List'" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points made?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m new and saw my first contests last
year. My first impression was “Why do they fly so high?” Then I wondered what
would happen if I flew low, slow and close in with <span class=grame>a</span>
Oxalys 50? <span class=grame>Still wondering.<O:P></O:P></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><O:P></O:P>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>mike mueller<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 02, 2006
2:14 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points made?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><O:P></O:P> You know what, Keith is right. We have a really good
flyer that comes to one of our contests about once a year. He flys his whole
sequence right off the deck like a bat out of hell. He's really good and can
pull it off. The deal excites everyone. It's a blast to watch. <br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Keith Black
<tkeithb@comcast.net></span></i></b> wrote: <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Reading the comments here brings the following to my
attention.</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>Loud "ballistic missile" pattern = Huge
popularity.</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Quite graceful pattern flying 150 m away = Boring.</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Huge Loud IMAC planes flying 3D = Huge popularity.</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> </D! IV> <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I bet if we add an "Extreme Pattern" class where
we do high slow rolls and snaps ten feed off the deck right over the runway
we'd become much more popular again. ;-)</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>Keith Black</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>----- Original Message ----- <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com" target="_blank" title="bob@toprudder.com">Bob
Richards</a> <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday, Ma! rch
02, 2006 8:55 AM<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points
made?<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><O:P></O:P>Larry,<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><O:P></O:P>Good points.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><O:P></O:P>A little history, as best as I can remember it. <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><O:P></O:P>At one time, Pattern was the top of the heap. I remember the
first RC Modeler magazine I bought (circa 1972) had coverage of the Masters
competition. RC Modeler carried coverage of the large pattern contests back
then. At some point (I don't remember when, exactly) RCM (aka Don Dewey) became
ticked off at the AMA because AMA chose to publish their own magazine. This
happened when American Aircraft Modeler magazine went out of business, they had
been publishing the AMA News in the back of their magazine. It seemed to me
that RCM no longer covered pattern events after that. There was a big push by
RCM to promote the "Sport Flyers Associat! ion", anything AMA
sanctioned was left out. (This was my observation).<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><O:P></O:P>Along came the TOC, which actually started out with pattern
models. Again, t! here was coverage. But, then the TOC went the scale
aerobatics route (and extra points for biplanes, and extra points for mammoth
planes -- the rest is history).<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><O:P></O:P>Pattern is no longer the premiere event that it used to be.
I think it all goes back to the WOW factor. There also seemed to be a period
where pattern flyers were looked down upon, usually labeled "snobs".
Thank goodnes that does not seem to be the case anymore.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><O:P></O:P>I think the change from loud, ballistic missle type flying
to the turnaround style now has changed the general modeling perception,
although it took several years for the general modeling public to recognize the
change. <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><O:P></O:P>However, the turnaround format seems to have had both a
positive and negati! ve effect. The general modeling public respects pattern
more as a result, but it also SEEMS to be a barrier for new participants.
Again, this is just my opinion.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> </D! iv> <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Bob R.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Lisa & Larry
<lld613@psci.net></span></i></b> wrote:<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Eric Henderson wrote****</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> If we knew
why we could probably fix it.<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> ****<O:P></O:P></span></font></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>From my viewpoint trying to get
into pattern around 1999 was a major challenge.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>I was first introduced to
Pattern in <ST1:PLACE u1:st="on">Southern California</ST1:PLACE> in 1985 when I
went to watch a contest. It took another 15 years to have the time and money to
do it. For me lack of time was because of my service in the US Navy. Difficult
to fly when your out at sea and they don’t fit too well in a locker on the
ship…vbg<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div><! FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>! It took me from 1999 to 2002
to find somebody that new what pattern was. Everyone new IMAC and could point
me to a pilot that competed, but not Pattern.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>What does this mean? Either I’m
not a very smart cookie or Pattern is a very well kept secret (not much has
changed since 1999). So how is it that a person that new pattern existed took
the better part of 4 years to finally talk to someone that could help get
started?<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='FONT-S: 10pt'><O:P></O:P><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Over the last seven years
we watched IMAC ARF’s take off and sell like hot cakes, only in the last couple
years have we seen Pattern ARF’s on the market.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</span>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>I went to an RC Airshow north
of <ST1:PLACE u1:st="on"><ST1:CITY u1:st="on">Bloomington</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE u1:st="on">IN</ST1:STATE></ST1:PLACE>
around the spring of 2002. I watched a pilot fly an Extra for an! IMAC
Sportsman Class Demo. I approached him and asked him about Pattern and how to
get started. His response was clear, “Why would you want to fly a toy model
plane when you can fly a model of a real plane and do the same thing!” Aside
from an instant turn off from IMAC, it ! set the tone of perception between
IMAC and Pattern. I will most likely start competing in IMAC this year as well
as pattern. Mostly because there are more IMAC contests in a 5 hour drive than
there are pattern from where I’m located.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>If you compare IMAC and Pattern
I don’t think the dog hunts in most of the arguments I’ve seen posted in the
last few years as they reappear from time to time. <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div style='margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>1)</span></font><font
size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:7.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IMAC and
Pattern planes compare in cost. (That dog won’t hunt on this point)<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div style='margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span style='mso-li: Ignore'>2)</span></font><font
size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:7.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2)</span></font><font size=1
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Arial;
mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>IMAC and Pattern take the same ! amount of practice time to be
competitive in a given class. (That dog won’t hunt on this point)<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div style='margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;color:navy'>3)</span></font><font size=1
color=navy><span style='font-size:7.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>IMAC and
Pattern meets are relatively the same driving distance for most. (That dog
won’t hunt! on this point)<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div style='margin-left:.5in'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;color:navy'>4)</span></font><font size=1
color=navy><span style='font-size:7.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I can
find more IMAC contests than Pattern contests (Dog might be tracking something
on this one)<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;color:navy'>5)</span></font><font size=1
color=navy><span style='font-size:7.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sport
pilots know more about IMAC than they do pattern, this is speculative but I
believe it’s the case. (Dog might be tracking something on this one)<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>We need to do a better job
marketing Pattern. I think that IMAC has done great in this area. The TOC
helped IMAC grow and get the word out through coverage of a big event. I think
we can see a decline in IMAC since the last TOC. I have not seen or heard of a
big contest that gets the publicity that the TOC received. Even the FAI World
Pattern contest is not covered! as well as the TOC was.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>How do you guys view these
points?<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>PS…What Eric does for Pattern
in his reporting to magazines is probably one of the key factors that he! lps
pattern stay afloat. Thanks Eric….<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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