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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Reading the comments here brings the following to
my attention.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Loud "ballistic missile" pattern = Huge
popularity.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Quite graceful pattern flying 150 m away =
Boring.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Huge Loud IMAC planes flying 3D = Huge
popularity.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I bet if we add an "Extreme Pattern" class where we
do high slow rolls and snaps ten feed off the deck right over the runway we'd
become much more popular again. ;-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keith Black</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:55
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs
Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points made?</DIV>
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<DIV>Larry,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Good points.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>A little history, as best as I can remember it. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>At one time, Pattern was the top of the heap. I remember the first RC
Modeler magazine I bought (circa 1972) had coverage of the Masters
competition. RC Modeler carried coverage of the large pattern contests back
then. At some point (I don't remember when, exactly) RCM (aka Don Dewey)
became ticked off at the AMA because AMA chose to publish their own magazine.
This happened when American Aircraft Modeler magazine went out of business,
they had been publishing the AMA News in the back of their magazine. It seemed
to me that RCM no longer covered pattern events after that. There was a big
push by RCM to promote the "Sport Flyers Association", anything AMA sanctioned
was left out. (This was my observation).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Along came the TOC, which actually started out with pattern models.
Again, t! here was coverage. But, then the TOC went the scale aerobatics route
(and extra points for biplanes, and extra points for mammoth planes -- the
rest is history).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Pattern is no longer the premiere event that it used to be. I think it
all goes back to the WOW factor. There also seemed to be a period where
pattern flyers were looked down upon, usually labeled "snobs". Thank goodnes
that does not seem to be the case anymore.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think the change from loud, ballistic missle type flying to the
turnaround style now has changed the general modeling perception, although it
took several years for the general modeling public to recognize the change.
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>However, the turnaround format seems to have had both a positive and
negative effect. The general modeling public respects pattern more as a
result, but it also SEEMS to be a barrier for new participants. Again, this is
just my opinion.</DIV>
<DIV> </D! iv>
<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Lisa & Larry <lld613@psci.net></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Eric Henderson
wrote****</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> If we knew why we could
probably fix it.<FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy">
****<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From my viewpoint
trying to get into pattern around 1999 was a major
challenge.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNorm! al><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was first
introduced to Pattern in <st1:place w:st="on">Southern
California</st1:place> in 1985 when I went to watch a contest. It took
another 15 years to have the time and money to do it. For me lack of time
was because of my service in the US Navy. Difficult to fly when your out at
sea and they don’t fit too well in a locker on the
ship…vbg<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">! It took me from
1999 to 2002 to find somebody that new what pattern was. Everyone new IMAC
and could point me to a pilot that competed, but not
Pattern.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What does this
mean? Either I’m not a very smart cookie or Pattern is a very well kept
secret (not much has changed since 1999). So how is it that a person that
new pattern existed took the better part of 4 years to finally talk to
someone that could help get started?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-S: 10pt">Over the last seven
years we watched IMAC ARF’s take off and sell like hot cakes, only in the
last couple years have we seen Pattern ARF’s on the
market.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I went to an RC
Airshow north of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Bloomington</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">IN</st1:State></st1:place> around the spring of 2002. I watched a
pilot fly an Extra for an IMAC Sportsman Class Demo. I approached him and
asked him about Pattern and how to get started. His response was clear, “Why
would you want to fly a toy model plane when you can fly a model of a real
plane and do the same thing!” Aside from an instant turn off from IMAC, it !
set the tone of perception between IMAC and Pattern. I will most likely
start competing in IMAC this year as well as pattern. Mostly because there
are more IMAC contests in a 5 hour drive than there are pattern from where
I’m located.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you compare IMAC
and Pattern I don’t think the dog hunts in most of the arguments I’ve seen
posted in the last few years as they reappear from time to time.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">1)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IMAC and Pattern
planes compare in cost. (That dog won’t hunt on this
point)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">2)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IMAC and Pattern
take the same ! amount of practice time to be competitive in a given class.
(That dog won’t hunt on this point)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">3)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IMAC and Pattern
meets are relatively the same driving distance for most. (That dog won’t
hunt on this point)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">4)<FONT face="Times New Roma! n"
size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can find more
IMAC contests than Pattern contests (Dog might be tracking something on this
one)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">5)<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sport pilots know
more about IMAC than they do pattern, this is speculative but I believe it’s
the case. (Dog might be tracking something on this
one)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.25in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We need to do a
better job marketing Pattern. I think that IMAC has done great in this area.
The TOC helped IMAC grow and get the word out through coverage of a big
event. I think we can see a decline in IMAC since the last TOC. I have not
seen or heard of a big contest that gets the publicity that the TOC
received. Even the FAI World Pattern contest is not covered as well as the
TOC was.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How do you guys
view these points?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Larry
Diamond<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">NSRCA
3083<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">PS…What Eric does
for Pattern in his reporting to magazines is probably one of the key factors
that he! lps pattern stay afloat. Thanks
Eric….<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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