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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jay:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Very true. Several sites formerly used for SA
contests have been lost here in the NE due to noise / neighbor complaints
during contests. I heard that another contest went away due to liability
concerns after a severe injury involving a contestant and his own airplane, then
there's another which very sadly is going away because of real estate
development (PGRC field). There's a lot of history at that field.
Anyway, the noise footprint concern is huge. We had a request for our club
to host a 2nd SA contest this year because of the loss of so many other
sites. We turned it down in part because of the fact that the noise rules
are now ignored, the box boundaries went away and the sequences are insane,
making the noise footprint problem worse than it's ever been. Even as wide open
as we think our contest field is, we've had complaints and we didn't want to
increase the exposure and risk. They better figure out what is plainly
obvious to at least some of us, because the current profile of the event is
fairly obnoxious to alot of people. The hovering next to the pits also has
the club member volunteers pretty darned annoyed and with them as well as being
concerned with liability, but the attitude by some is that it's their right - to
paraphrase - "it's IMAC, it's what we do". </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway, compare the D1 contest calendar to the NE
IMAC contest calendar and tell me again that IMAC is gaining while pattern is
losing. Not around here is isn't.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=lightfoot@sc.rr.com href="mailto:lightfoot@sc.rr.com">Jay
Marshall</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'NSRCA Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 02, 2006 5:24
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs
Pattern Participation?Does the DogHunt on points made?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The strongest control
is the neighbors closing down the site.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Bill Glaze<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, March 02, 2006 4:59
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing
List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points
made?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ed:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'll tell you of the latest
iteration/interpretation when I get back from Florida. I'm sure it will
be interesting. It is amazing and a little more than baffling to me
that, with the loudest airplanes in modeling, there is somewhere between
little or no effort to control the noise
footprint.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bill
Glaze</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=ed_alt@hotmail.com href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com">Ed Alt</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=randy10926@comtekmail.com
href="mailto:randy10926@comtekmail.com">randy10926@comtekmail.com</A> ; <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Thursday, March 02, 2006 4:48 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points
made?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For all practical purposes,
Scale Aerobatics has no box anymore. It exists as an abstract concept
on a piece of paper in that it has a defined height, width and depth, but
since they eliminated the 75 degree markers, there is nothing left to
measure it against. Additionally, they eliminated the concept of
zones, so you are free to place things where it seems good to place them,
i.e., a figure that would appear to be meant for the center of the box
doesn't have to be flown directly in front of you. Your choice of
placement has some kind of connection to the so-called Presentation Score as
it was originally 'defined'. There are no deductions for
centering inaccuracy. Once you enter the box, you still need to get
figures in the correct order and direction, though cross box figures leave
direction (in or out) to the discretion of the pilot. Currently, there
may or may not be enforcement of a pure impressionist extra figure
known as the Presentation Score. It passed as a rule, then everyone
was instructed by the IMAC BOD not to follow the AMA rule they pushed
through. I heard rumblings that maybe they are going to allow or
encourage CDs to follow that rule again. Not sure, I don't really
track what they do very closely anymore.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ed</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=randy10926@comtekmail.com
href="mailto:randy10926@comtekmail.com">Glenn Hatfield</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Thursday, March 02, 2006 4:21 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on
points made?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You can fly low slow and close
in if you desire. The box that you fly in is smaller for
pattern than IMAC. You get too close in and the box gets really
small. The box is about the right size for a 2 meter at 150 to
170 Meters parallel to the flight line. You might be able to fly a
50 sized at 125 to 150 meters. At least I
do.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 5.0pt"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Randy<BR> <BR>--- "Jay
Marshall" <lightfoot@sc.rr.com> wrote:<BR> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> "Jay Marshall"
<lightfoot@sc.rr.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date:</SPAN></B> Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:51:24
-0500<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "'NSRCA Mailing
List'" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] IMAC
Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on points
made?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m new and saw
my first contests last year. My first impression was “Why do they fly so
high?” Then I wondered what would happen if I flew low, slow and close in
with <SPAN class=grame>a</SPAN> Oxalys 50? <SPAN class=grame>Still
wondering.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><O:P></O:P>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>mike mueller<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, March 02, 2006 2:14
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Mailing
List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on
points made?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P> You know what, Keith is right. We
have a really good flyer that comes to one of our contests about once a
year. He flys his whole sequence right off the deck like a bat out of
hell. He's really good and can pull it off. The deal excites everyone.
It's a blast to watch. <BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Keith Black
<tkeithb@comcast.net></SPAN></I></B> wrote:
<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Reading the comments here
brings the following to my
attention.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>Loud "ballistic
missile" pattern = Huge
popularity.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Quite
graceful pattern flying 150 m away =
Boring.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Huge
Loud IMAC planes flying 3D = Huge
popularity.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </D! IV>
<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I bet
if we add an "Extreme Pattern" class where we do high slow rolls and snaps
ten feed off the deck right over the runway we'd become much more popular
again. ;-)</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>Keith
Black</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>----- Original
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com"
target=_blank>Bob Richards</A>
<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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Thursday, Ma! rch 02, 2006 8:55
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] IMAC Vs Pattern Participation? Does the DogHunt on
points made?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P>Larry,<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P>Good
points.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P>A
little history, as best as I can remember it.
<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P>At one time, Pattern was the top of
the heap. I remember the first RC Modeler magazine I bought (circa 1972)
had coverage of the Masters competition. RC Modeler carried coverage of
the large pattern contests back then. At some point (I don't remember
when, exactly) RCM (aka Don Dewey) became ticked off at the AMA because
AMA chose to publish their own magazine. This happened when American
Aircraft Modeler magazine went out of business, they had been publishing
the AMA News in the back of their magazine. It seemed to me that RCM no
longer covered pattern events after that. There was a big push by RCM to
promote the "Sport Flyers Associat! ion", anything AMA sanctioned was
left out. (This was my
observation).<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P>Along came the TOC, which actually
started out with pattern models. Again, t! here was coverage. But, then
the TOC went the scale aerobatics route (and extra points for biplanes,
and extra points for mammoth planes -- the rest is
history).<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P>Pattern is no longer the premiere
event that it used to be. I think it all goes back to the WOW factor.
There also seemed to be a period where pattern flyers were looked down
upon, usually labeled "snobs". Thank goodnes that does not seem to be
the case anymore.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P>I
think the change from loud, ballistic missle type flying to the
turnaround style now has changed the general modeling perception,
although it took several years for the general modeling public to
recognize the change. <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P>However, the turnaround format seems
to have had both a positive and negati! ve effect. The general modeling
public respects pattern more as a result, but it also SEEMS to be a
barrier for new participants. Again, this is just my
opinion.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </D!
iv> <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Bob
R.<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Lisa & Larry
<lld613@psci.net></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Eric
Henderson wrote****</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> If we knew why we could
probably fix it.<FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy">
****<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>From
my viewpoint trying to get into pattern around 1999 was a major
challenge.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>I
was first introduced to Pattern in <ST1:PLACE u1:st="on">Southern
California</ST1:PLACE> in 1985 when I went to watch a contest. It took
another 15 years to have the time and money to do it. For me lack of
time was because of my service in the US Navy. Difficult to fly when
your out at sea and they don’t fit too well in a locker on the
ship…vbg<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV><! FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2>
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style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>!
It took me from 1999 to 2002 to find somebody that new what pattern
was. Everyone new IMAC and could point me to a pilot that competed,
but not Pattern.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>What
does this mean? Either I’m not a very smart cookie or Pattern is a
very well kept secret (not much has changed since 1999). So how is it
that a person that new pattern existed took the better part of 4 years
to finally talk to someone that could help get
started?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-S: 10pt"><O:P></O:P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Over the last
seven years we watched IMAC ARF’s take off and sell like hot cakes,
only in the last couple years have we seen Pattern ARF’s on the
market.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></SPAN>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>I
went to an RC Airshow north of <ST1:PLACE u1:st="on"><ST1:CITY
u1:st="on">Bloomington</ST1:CITY>, <ST1:STATE
u1:st="on">IN</ST1:STATE></ST1:PLACE> around the spring of 2002. I
watched a pilot fly an Extra for an! IMAC Sportsman Class Demo. I
approached him and asked him about Pattern and how to get started. His
response was clear, “Why would you want to fly a toy model plane when
you can fly a model of a real plane and do the same thing!” Aside from
an instant turn off from IMAC, it ! set the tone of perception between
IMAC and Pattern. I will most likely start competing in IMAC this year
as well as pattern. Mostly because there are more IMAC contests in a 5
hour drive than there are pattern from where I’m
located.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>If
you compare IMAC and Pattern I don’t think the dog hunts in most of
the arguments I’ve seen posted in the last few years as they reappear
from time to time. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><O:P></O:P>1)</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: navy; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IMAC and
Pattern planes compare in cost. (That dog won’t hunt on this
point)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-li: Ignore">2)</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: navy; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial">
</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial">2)</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IMAC and
Pattern take the same ! amount of practice time to be competitive in a
given class. (That dog won’t hunt on this
point)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial">3)</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: navy; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IMAC and
Pattern meets are relatively the same driving distance for most. (That
dog won’t hunt! on this
point)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial">4)</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: navy; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can find
more IMAC contests than Pattern contests (Dog might be tracking
something on this one)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; tab-stops: list 1.0in"><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial">5)</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: navy; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sport pilots
know more about IMAC than they do pattern, this is speculative but I
believe it’s the case. (Dog might be tracking something on this
one)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>We
need to do a better job marketing Pattern. I think that IMAC has done
great in this area. The TOC helped IMAC grow and get the word out
through coverage of a big event. I think we can see a decline in IMAC
since the last TOC. I have not seen or heard of a big contest that
gets the publicity that the TOC received. Even the FAI World Pattern
contest is not covered! as well as the TOC
was.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>How
do you guys view these
points?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>Larry
Diamond<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">NSRCA
3083<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O:P></O:P>PS…What
Eric does for Pattern in his reporting to magazines is probably one of
the key factors that he! lps pattern stay afloat. Thanks
Eric….<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT
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