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<DIV><SPAN class=730334017-28022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>not
handy!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Glenn
Hatfield<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:25 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Cost-participation-or some such stuff<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size=2><FONT
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">got any pictures of it.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif"
size=2>Randy <BR> <BR>--- "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas@kodeos.com>
wrote:<BR> <BR><B>From:</B> "Dean Pappas"
<d.pappas@kodeos.com><BR><B>Date:</B> Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:59:42
-0500<BR><B>To:</B> "NSRCA Mailing List"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff<BR><BR></P>
<DIV><SPAN class=213545816-28022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Gray,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=213545816-28022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You
never saw my '90/'91 season Stand-off Mustang?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=213545816-28022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Gray E
Fowler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:48 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion]
Cost-participation-or some such stuff<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>I have never flown non turnaround pattern. When I
first got in to pattern I saw all the comments flyin' around about how
turnaround kills attendance. To this day I cannot figure out why the older
guys (which if you flew non turn around you were either very young then or
old now) wank so much about this change. Perhaps the decline of pattern from
its heyday has more to do with with other RC interest than stinkin'
turnaround changes. When I was young, we had 3 TV channnels, and when MASH
came on EVERYONE watched, unless Nixon was giving us a speech, which was on
all 3 channels, in that case we were all screwed.....Would MASH be so
popular today competing with 150 other channels, INCLUDING "The Food
Channel????!!!!!" I think not! Learn how to make a
quiche......or MASH. As you can see this is quite a quandary.</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I will say that when I first
investigated pattern and found out everyone had $550 engines instead of my
$99 two stroke-I was flabergasted. I still might be.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>To me turnaround is the coolest and not the
problem.....when does this argument end? I would guess in another 10 years,
because at that time all that flew NON turnaround will be dead or quit due
to age.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>When I started Ed Hurt
was flying Masters at age 75......He told me alot but NEVER told me that
turnaround sucked........</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>Billion Dollar Batteries, Electric gear motors, $650 engines and
pristine "works of art" scare the average sport flyer (by showing/thinking
they cannot do that) much more than turnaround......</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>Scenario #56.....Sport flyer thinking about
pattern......Lets see, No problem with powerplants costing 5-15X of my
OS.45, just won't feed the kids for a week, 300 hours to build and paint a
flying master piece, and of course $2500 for that kit -semi arf deal, then I
gotta learn turnaround too!!!! No WAY.....Dealing with the French for the
plane was bad enough, now I gotta learn turnaound too????...I am out for
sure......</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Now I am off in
search of the perfect P-51 lookin'pattern plane.............I think that
that bottom air scoop makes for better Knife Edges, increases rudder
authority, slows the plane down better, increasing smoothness and
gracefulness (thus increasing scores), makes snap entrances better, AND
better throttle response (far superior to ANY electric). I conducted these
tests myself, collected data so I know I am right. I cannot believe that the
rest of you have not seen the wisdom of a P-51 pattern plane. No wonder you
find turnaround so difficult.<BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Composites
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