Ed Izzo that brings back some great memories. What was his wife's name. She was his caller and always by his side. You don't see that very often anymore. <BR><BR><B><I>Dean Pappas <d.pappas@kodeos.com></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><SPAN class=911452620-28022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>And the late Ed Izzo competed in Pattern with a stand-way-off P-40. He won with it, too.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <div><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times
New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </div> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill Glaze<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hmmmm........ I can remember hearing about Red St. Aubin winning a pattern contest in LAX with a Corsair (yes, a model of the WW2 airplane) --of course, I DO have a couple of years on y'all.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bill Glaze</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=kerlock@comcast.net href="mailto:kerlock@comcast.net">Mike Hester</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:01 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your P-51 fetish is showing again =)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Mike</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=gfowler@raytheon.com href="mailto:gfowler@raytheon.com">Gray E Fowler</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:47 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I have never flown non turnaround pattern. When I first got in to pattern I saw all the comments flyin' around about how turnaround kills attendance. To this day I cannot figure out why the older guys (which if you flew non turn around you were either very young then or old now) wank so much about this change. Perhaps the decline of pattern from its heyday has more to do with with other RC interest than stinkin'
turnaround changes. When I was young, we had 3 TV channnels, and when MASH came on EVERYONE watched, unless Nixon was giving us a speech, which was on all 3 channels, in that case we were all screwed.....Would MASH be so popular today competing with 150 other channels, INCLUDING "The Food Channel????!!!!!" I think not! Learn how to make a quiche......or MASH. As you can see this is quite a quandary.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I will say that when I first investigated pattern and found out everyone had $550 engines instead of my $99 two stroke-I was flabergasted. I still might be.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>To me turnaround is the coolest and not the problem.....when does this argument end? I would guess in another 10 years, because at that time all that flew NON turnaround will be dead or quit due to age.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>When I started Ed Hurt was flying Masters at age 75......He told me alot but NEVER told me
that turnaround sucked........</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Billion Dollar Batteries, Electric gear motors, $650 engines and pristine "works of art" scare the average sport flyer (by showing/thinking they cannot do that) much more than turnaround......</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Scenario #56.....Sport flyer thinking about pattern......Lets see, No problem with powerplants costing 5-15X of my OS.45, just won't feed the kids for a week, 300 hours to build and paint a flying master piece, and of course $2500 for that kit -semi arf deal, then I gotta learn turnaround too!!!! No WAY.....Dealing with the French for the plane was bad enough, now I gotta learn turnaound too????...I am out for sure......</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Now I am off in search of the perfect P-51 lookin'pattern plane.............I think that that bottom air scoop makes for better Knife Edges, increases rudder authority, slows the plane down better, increasing
smoothness and gracefulness (thus increasing scores), makes snap entrances better, AND better throttle response (far superior to ANY electric). I conducted these tests myself, collected data so I know I am right. I cannot believe that the rest of you have not seen the wisdom of a P-51 pattern plane. No wonder you find turnaround so difficult.<BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Composites Engineering</FONT> <div> <HR> <div></div>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</BLOCKQUOTE> <div> <HR> <div></div>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion mailing
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