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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hmmmm........ I can remember hearing about Red St. Aubin
winning a pattern contest in LAX with a Corsair (yes, a model of the WW2
airplane) --of course, I DO have a couple of years on y'all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bill Glaze</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your P-51 fetish is showing again =)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:47
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<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I have never flown non
turnaround pattern. When I first got in to pattern I saw all the comments
flyin' around about how turnaround kills attendance. To this day I cannot
figure out why the older guys (which if you flew non turn around you were
either very young then or old now) wank so much about this change. Perhaps
the decline of pattern from its heyday has more to do with with other RC
interest than stinkin' turnaround changes. When I was young, we had 3 TV
channnels, and when MASH came on EVERYONE watched, unless Nixon was giving
us a speech, which was on all 3 channels, in that case we were all
screwed.....Would MASH be so popular today competing with 150 other
channels, INCLUDING "The Food Channel????!!!!!" I think not!
Learn how to make a quiche......or MASH. As you can see this is quite
a quandary.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I will say that when
I first investigated pattern and found out everyone had $550 engines instead
of my $99 two stroke-I was flabergasted. I still might be.</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>To me turnaround is the coolest and not
the problem.....when does this argument end? I would guess in another 10
years, because at that time all that flew NON turnaround will be dead or
quit due to age.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>When I started
Ed Hurt was flying Masters at age 75......He told me alot but NEVER told me
that turnaround sucked........</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>Billion Dollar Batteries, Electric gear motors, $650 engines and
pristine "works of art" scare the average sport flyer (by showing/thinking
they cannot do that) much more than turnaround......</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>Scenario #56.....Sport flyer thinking about
pattern......Lets see, No problem with powerplants costing 5-15X of my
OS.45, just won't feed the kids for a week, 300 hours to build and paint a
flying master piece, and of course $2500 for that kit -semi arf deal, then I
gotta learn turnaround too!!!! No WAY.....Dealing with the French for the
plane was bad enough, now I gotta learn turnaound too????...I am out for
sure......</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Now I am off in
search of the perfect P-51 lookin'pattern plane.............I think that
that bottom air scoop makes for better Knife Edges, increases rudder
authority, slows the plane down better, increasing smoothness and
gracefulness (thus increasing scores), makes snap entrances better, AND
better throttle response (far superior to ANY electric). I conducted these
tests myself, collected data so I know I am right. I cannot believe that the
rest of you have not seen the wisdom of a P-51 pattern plane. No wonder you
find turnaround so difficult.<BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Composites Engineering</FONT>
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