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<DIV><SPAN class=970485020-28022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
think that Louise is still living in the Orlando area. Ed's gone a good ten
years, now.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=970485020-28022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>She
sure is good people.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>mike
mueller<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or
some such stuff<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> Ed Izzo that brings back some great
memories. What was his wife's name. She was his caller and always by his side.
You don't see that very often anymore. <BR><BR><B><I>Dean Pappas
<d.pappas@kodeos.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><SPAN class=911452620-28022006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>And the late Ed Izzo competed in Pattern with a stand-way-off P-40.
He won with it, too.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT
face!="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill
Glaze<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hmmmm........ I can remember hearing about Red St.
Aubin winning a pattern contest in LAX with a Corsair (yes, a model of the
WW2 airplane) --of course, I DO have a couple of years on
y'all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bill Glaze</FONT></DIV>
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Hester</A> </DIV>
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11:01 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your P-51 fetish is showing again
=)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=gfowler@raytheon.com href="mailto:gfowler@raytheon.com">Gray
E Fowler</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 28, 2006
10:47 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion]
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<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I have never flown non
turnaround pattern. When I first got in to pattern I saw all the
comments flyin' around about how turnaround kills attendance. To this
day I cannot figure out why the older guys (which if you flew non turn
around you were either very young then or old now) wank so much about
this change. Perhaps the decline of pattern from its heyday has more
to do with with other RC interest than stinkin' turnaround changes.
When I was young, we had 3 TV channnels, and when MASH came on
EVERYONE watched, unless Nixon was giving us a speech, which was on
all 3 channels, in that case we were all screwed.....Would MASH be so
popular today competing with 150 other channels, INCLUDING "The Food
Channel????!!!!!" I think not! Learn how to make a
quiche......or MASH. As you can see this is quite a quandary.</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I will say that when I first
investigated pattern and found out everyone had $550 engines instead
of my $99 two stroke-I was flabergasted. I still might be.</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>To me turnaround is the coolest
and not the problem.....when does this argument end? I would guess in
another 10 years, because at that time all that flew NON turnaround
will be dead or quit due to age.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>When I started Ed Hurt was flying Masters at age 75......He
told me alot but NEVE! R told me that turnaround sucked........</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Billion Dollar Batteries,
Electric gear motors, $650 engines and pristine "works of art" scare
the average sport flyer (by showing/thinking they cannot do that) much
more than turnaround......</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2>Scenario #56.....Sport flyer thinking about pattern......Lets
see, No problem with powerplants costing 5-15X of my OS.45, just won't
feed the kids for a week, 300 hours to build and paint a flying master
piece, and of course $2500 for that kit -semi arf deal, then I gotta
learn turnaround too!!!! No WAY.....Dealing with the French for the
plane was bad enough, now I gotta learn turnaound too????...I am out
for sure......</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2><BR>Now I am
off in search of the perfect P-51 lookin'pattern plane.............I
think that that bottom air scoop makes for better Knife Edges,
increases rudder authority, slows the plane down better, increasing
smoothness and gracefulness (thus increasing scores), makes snap
entrances better, AND better throttle response (far superior to ANY
electric). I conducted these tests myself, collected data so I know I
am right. I cannot believe that the rest of you have not seen the
wisdom of a P-51 pattern plane. No wonder you find turnaround so
difficult.<BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Composites Engineering</FONT>
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